OT: Superbowl 50 - Who Will Win?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Newton, Mr. 59.7% completion percentage, picks the #1 defense apart?

Newton isn't a good enough passer to win this game. I said it on other forums, and if I'd seen this post before the game, I'd have said it here. The only question was could the Broncos defense do anything with the ball? They scored once, and that was enough with Cam consistently overthrowing receivers, and fumbling the ball away.

He's a petulant man-child. I'm so glad he lost. Seeing him throw a mini temper tantrum in the endzone was glorious. He's got a lot of maturing to do.

Jesus he got hit late and expressed a little frustration most of which was due to his subpar game. What of it? Man-child??

[itjclarke]

Back to the topic of Brad, Blake, Brock, Bob... whoever it is "O", I did a quick scan over on Football Reference and saw that you'd have to go back to 1980 to find a SB winning team who's QB's had a negative TD to INT differential.

It's pretty amazing what this team was able to accomplish almost entirely with its defense (I am not a Bronco fan). It is even more so when contrasted with the video game/FFL dream offensive numbers they put up 2 years ago before getting smacked by the Seahawks. Elway and Co got it done.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Back to the topic of Brad, Blake, Brock, Bob... whoever it is "O", I did a quick scan over on Football Reference and saw that you'd have to go back to 1980 to find a SB winning team who's QB's had a negative TD to INT differential.

It's pretty amazing what this team was able to accomplish almost entirely with its defense (I am not a Bronco fan). It is even more so when contrasted with the video game/FFL dream offensive numbers they put up 2 years ago before getting smacked by the Seahawks. Elway and Co got it done.

Elway completely revamped that defense. I'm certainly no Broncos fan, either (especially considering they're the only team to beat Green Bay in the Super Bowl), but I have to give credit to the organization. Now, the task becomes keeping the Broncos as an elite team. They've spent a lot of money, and it's going to hit them cap-wise, soon.

The Panthers should be ok. Newton had a terrible game, but he also didn't get much help from his receivers. While he overthrew at least three of his wide outs, they also had to contend with two or three drops I can think of. He's got all the tools, he just needs to mature a bit. They have a lot of talent on the defensive side of the ball, but they need a good, solid possession receiver.

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Elway completely revamped that defense. I'm certainly no Broncos fan, either (especially considering they're the only team to beat Green Bay in the Super Bowl), but I have to give credit to the organization. Now, the task becomes keeping the Broncos as an elite team. They've spent a lot of money, and it's going to hit them cap-wise, soon.

The Panthers should be ok. Newton had a terrible game, but he also didn't get much help from his receivers. While he overthrew at least three of his wide outs, they also had to contend with two or three drops I can think of. He's got all the tools, he just needs to mature a bit. They have a lot of talent on the defensive side of the ball, but they need a good, solid possession receiver.

I'm with you re- Broncs, though never had the angst of a SB loss. Niners took them down 55-10!! Elway always bugged me in his younger days though.. but I totally respect how he's molded this team. He got close via incredible O, saw the team's vulnerable areas, and went all in the solidify his D.

Re- Newton, he used to really bug me for many of the reasons he bugged others, but he slowly won me over this year. I agree with you in regards to his outward persona though. He's amazing and charismatic when he's on top, but he give him some adversity and he goes into the gutter. You don't ever need to like/accept losing, but as a QB you need to show your teammates character/leadership after a loss... and you especially need do so for your teammates during a game in which you still have a chance!!! (dive for the fumble man!)!!

That stat they showed where Carolina hadn't trailed a minute during the postseason just seemed like a bad omen. It's good to trail, get beaten up a little and fight your way back. I hope he grows up a bit after this loos, and hope he gets another chance down the road.

As is, congrats Broncos and Bronco fans

[brianp-beme]

I just voted for the Broncos to win. Just my opinion.

Brian

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Jesus he got hit late and expressed a little frustration most of which was due to his subpar game. What of it? Man-child??

I'm talking about the play in the endzone where he got knocked down, and kicked his legs and arms out. It wasn't a late hit. Go to Youtube, and enter in Cam Newton tantrum. There are already several different videos of him doing it.

Did you see his post game press conference? Steve Young and Deion Sanders have both called him out for it, for not acting like a professional. He gave three minutes to the reporters, gave one and two word responses, and then left. He's smiling and demonstrative when he's winning, but when he's faced with some adversity, or disappointment, he shows no class whatsoever. He's done it in the past, and he's still doing it now. We just didn't see it much this year because they were winning.

There's winning and losing with grace. Cam didn't demonstrate any tonight, and he is rightfully being held to the fire. You can bet that if Denver had lost, Peyton Manning would be there showing the class he's always played with.

[Buythatcard]

One thing that was a first tonight. John Elway became the first person to win a Super Bowl ring as both a player and a general manager.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

One thing that was a first tonight. John Elway became the first person to win a Super Bowl ring as both a player and a general manager.

Peyton Manning is the first quarterback to win a Super Bowl with two different teams, and Gary Kubiak is the first head coach to win a Super Bowl with a team that he played for.

[JoeyFarino]

Broncos whooped that ass!