Another one for the brilliant minds at PSA...

[Rookiemonster]

I don't know what to think anymore

[Kco]

This is just a possibility, but is it possible that someone tampered with the case, removed the real card and replaced it with a card with a facsimile. I know PSA and JSA get it wrong sometimes, but just a thought as to what may have happened. Or is it possible the chip itself is fake?

Wouldn't surprise me if they did authenticate a facsimile either!!

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Kco

This is just a possibility, but is it possible that someone tampered with the case, removed the real card and replaced it with a card with a facsimile. I know PSA and JSA get it wrong sometimes, but just a thought as to what may have happened. Or is it possible the chip itself is fake?



Wouldn't surprise me if they did authenticate a facsimile either!!

No because that card was not signed in the set. Unless you did an IP auto.


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[Kco]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

No because that card was not signed in the set. Unless you did an IP auto.


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Gotcha, not too framiliar with modern cards as there are too many sets to track, so it's just an outright screw up then

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Kco

Gotcha, not too framiliar with modern cards as there are too many sets to track, so it's just an outright screw up then

Haha no worries! I'm a vintage guy myself but have been dabbling a little in modern lately.


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[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

I don't know what to think anymore

I think that makes about 5000.

Years ago people on the "other side" thought they could trap the TPA's, myself included.
They put some "signed" photos (copies of actual signed photos) into hard plastic top loaders and sent them off to be authenticated.
All it took was the removal of the photo from the holder to see that the photos were not actually signed.
I removed them from the holders and issued rejection letters.
The TPA's did not do that and issued COA's.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

I think that makes about 5000.

Years ago people on the "other side" thought they could trap the TPA's, myself included.
They put some "signed" photos (copies of actual signed photos) into hard plastic top loaders and sent them off to be authenticated.
All it took was the removal of the photo from the holder to see that the photos were not actually signed.
I removed them from the holders and issued rejection letters.
The TPA's did not do that and issued COA's.

That's just disturbing. I've thought about quitting the hobby many times but people like you and Jim keep me in it because I value yours and others opinions over any other TPG, so I feel very comfortable because of a lot of the members on here.


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[sbfinley]

Not a cracked slab, PSA dropped the ball on the flip. Problem is the base is #'d BCP111 while the auto is #'d BCP111B. PSA has not ever designated the auto with the "B" at the end of the card number. They flip both as "BCP111" with only "Prospects" or "Prospect Auto" at the bottom to differ the two. This has allowed them on multiple occasion to label the card wrong.

[Klrdds]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

I think that makes about 5000.

Years ago people on the "other side" thought they could trap the TPA's, myself included.
They put some "signed" photos (copies of actual signed photos) into hard plastic top loaders and sent them off to be authenticated.
All it took was the removal of the photo from the holder to see that the photos were not actually signed.
I removed them from the holders and issued rejection letters.
The TPA's did not do that and issued COA's.

Richard the difference is you put your integrity above profit and effort above laziness and knowledge above assumption.