the list (of criminals) is revealed

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

And people are worried about the grading company that has 90% market share going out of business.

SGC has less then 3%.

If any of these revelations are a death sentence for a third party grader it glaringly obvious that it's the company that's owner is caught up in this mess.

How unreal. You grade the cards, you sell them through auction houses and you enhance the price with illegal bidding.

Haha

You can't make this stuff up. We might be seeing these fellas in an episode of American Greed.

If I had a large amount of funds tied up in SGC cards this would make me sick to my stomach.

Selective reading? Comprehension problem?

There are just as many PSA names on the list as there are SGC.

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Selective reading? Comprehension problem?

There are just as many PSA names on the list as there are SGC.

You see an owner?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

You see an owner?

If someone at a company is breaking the law, does it matter if it's an employee or an owner?

You're free to talk about it over here on this board. Let's see you go start a thread about it over on CU, and call out the PSA names that are involved. No, you want do that because you and have no balls! Grow a set!

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

If someone at a company is breaking the law, does it matter if it's an employee or an owner?

You're free to talk about it over here on this board. Let's see you go start a thread about it over on CU, and call out the PSA names that are involved. No, you want do that because you and have no balls! Grow a set!

There is a huge difference between an employee and the owner.

Use some common sense.

In terms of starting a thread on CU about it. You are right I won't. But obviously you recognize my name from there and I have taken on all comers. That is a fact.

There isn't one person on any of these boards that would have withstood the hazing I took and never once complained or went to the mods. I obviously have a set. Thank you very much.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

In terms of starting a thread on CU about it. You are right I won't.

Of course you won't. You have no balls. If you did, you would call out Reznikoff, Keating, Rullo, etc.

Why will you do it over here, but not over there?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Of course you won't. You have no balls. If you did, you would call out Reznikoff, Keating, Rullo, etc.

Why will you do it over here, but not over there?

Probably because he knows the thread will last 5 seconds before it's gone.

[ALR-bishop]

Someone did start a thread. The OP, who I do not know and had a fairly low post count, generally just mentioned the matter and referred people to this board.

The thread lasted longer that 5 seconds ( or various lamb shakes), but not by much. Not sure if the OP was banned or put on probation

[ashes13]

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...-counter-suit/

what to make of this?

[TNP777]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Of course you won't. You have no balls. If you did, you would call out Reznikoff, Keating, Rullo, etc.

Why will you do it over here, but not over there?

I assume you're well aware that people on CU are not really allowed to speak their mind about anything beyond rainbows and unicorns. Anything that smells remotely of scandal or discord is ruthlessly squashed, and far too often people lose their posting privileges there. Many here might not think that's a big deal, but there are still many there that enjoy the interaction and community.

I think it's wrong to not allow members to discuss a topic like this, but it's their private playground - they've consistently shown that they won't tolerate mud-slinging, especially when it concerns their big submitters, staff and shareholders. Better to get out in front of a situation rather than cover up and deny, imo.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

There is a huge difference between an employee and the owner.

41 Apr‐07 1512 Joe Orlando (consignor) Bill Mastro and Andrew Filipowski (shill bidders) Rob Rosen (Winner) $85,245.00 (winning price) $19,099.00 (loss amount)

Now what do you say?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

41 Apr‐07 1512 Joe Orlando (consignor) Bill Mastro and Andrew Filipowski (shill bidders) Rob Rosen (Winner) $85,245.00 (winning price) $19,099.00 (loss amount)

Now what do you say?

This may be a mistake on the government's part. I thought that lot was consigned by JOHN Orlando a BoSox batboy?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

This may be a mistake on the government's part. I thought that lot was consigned by JOHN Orlando a BoSox batboy?

Or a member of his family. I have it on good word that is not the Joe Orlando affiliated with PSA.

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

41 Apr‐07 1512 Joe Orlando (consignor) Bill Mastro and Andrew Filipowski (shill bidders) Rob Rosen (Winner) $85,245.00 (winning price) $19,099.00 (loss amount)

Now what do you say?

Nothing. Joe isn't the owner. If David Hall's name were on the list it would be a much different story.

While you are at it please post the item that he consigned.

Edit: And nice to see it wasn't him.

[PM770]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

You see an owner?

Isn't PSA a publicly traded company?

While their stock holdings are likely too small to be reportable to the SEC so we could never know, isn't it likely that members of this so-called "Board of Experts" own some stock?

[tazdmb]

Originally Posted by PM770

Isn't PSA a publicly traded company?

While their stock holdings are likely too small to be reportable to the SEC so we could never know, isn't it likely that members of this so-called "Board of Experts" own some stock?

Yes, PSA is a subsidiary of Collector's Universe-a NASDAQ publicly traded stock that is up for the day

[1880nonsports]

I corrected my post. I was writing as it was posted.

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by tazdmb

Yes, PSA is a subsidiary of Collector's Universe-a NASDAQ publicly traded stock that is up for the day

The stock is currently up as you said. Let's face it if SGC were a publicly traded company the shares would have gapped down 40% on this news.

To the person who suggested employees may own shares. That is probably true. But just like I work for a bank and could own shares in it, I am not the principle owner and have no ability to control what goes on at the company.

A far cry from the actual owner of a private company who directly calls the shots.

[PM770]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

To the person who suggested employees may own shares. That is probably true. But just like I work for a bank and could own shares in it, I am not the principle owner and have no ability to control what goes on at the company.

A far cry from the actual owner of a private company who directly calls the shots.

That makes your "See an owner?" comment inane. Of course not, they don't really have an "owner" in the sense you were talking. Just stockholders.

Is there a name related to PSA that would have bothered you?

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by PM770

That makes your "See an owner?" comment inane. Of course not, they don't really have an "owner" in the sense you were talking. Just stockholders.

Is there a name related to PSA that would have bothered you?

David Hall, If his name was listed their stock would be down today for sure. Founder and president. Closest thing to the owner of SGC.

SGC is a private company. Much different corporate structure.