the list (of criminals) is revealed

[Leon]

I have seen it and it ain't pretty. It's a virtual who's who of a lot of the hobby. I got shilled but already had an idea of that.

It is a 1mb pdf file. Whomever wants to see it send me an email.

The LIST is IN POST 51

[sflayank]

in looking more thoroughly mastro probably appears on 2/3 of the lots listed and other dealers on the other 1/3
i dont know how to put this monster file on here
i have nothing against any of these people but here are some examples
irv lerner. every item he ever consigned bid on by jenifer stein
joe esposito every item bid on by his best bud caparelli
kent fedderman
ken goldin
mark irodenko
and on and on it goes same bidder on all their consignments
some names of bidders on this board are in the screwed column and how much they got screwed for
file:///C:/Users/sflayank/Downloads/doug%20allen%20(2).pdf

[ullmandds]

can't wait to hear how some of these guys try to talk their ways out of this?

[begsu1013]

pm request recanted.

will get my favor elsewhere.

[1952boyntoncollector]

I know I not on either list unless on the gotten screwed list......I got a feeling a lot of the illegal shillers think a cycle is better than hitting 2 homers and 2 doubles..


Lets compile a NET54 list of shiller posters..

[sflayank]

looks like hal steinbrenner got screwed out of the most money in 2007 2008
but if youd like to know what he collects you can look

[Buythatcard]

I have a feeling that this thread is going to be one of the most visited threads of all time.

[ksabet]

Wow I have a feeling my day is about to get a little sadder

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by ksabet

Wow I have a feeling my day is about to get a little sadder

Better sad and enlightened !

[Buythatcard]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

I have a feeling that this thread is going to be one of the most visited threads of all time.

As I mentioned in Post # 15.

[Buythatcard]

All these shills bother me especially the one done against me. But the one that really bothers me is T.J. Schwartz. He was the only reason that I kept subscribing to SCD. Always enjoyed his column "On Your Side". Or should it now be called "Shill You". I just sent off a check on Weds to renew that publication. If I only knew, I would have not renewed.

Moving forward, I think one way to stop some of this shilling would be if an AH put out a list after each auction showing the same type of info that was used in Mastro's case. Knowing that your name will be put out there might make you think twice about shilling another auction.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by sflayank

in looking more thoroughly mastro probably appears on 2/3 of the lots listed and other dealers on the other 1/3
i dont know how to put this monster file on here
i have nothing against any of these people but here are some examples
irv lerner. every item he ever consigned bid on by jenifer stein
joe esposito every item bid on by his best bud caparelli
kent fedderman
ken goldin
mark irodenko
and on and on it goes same bidder on all their consignments
some names of bidders on this board are in the screwed column and how much they got screwed for
file:///C:/Users/sflayank/Downloads/doug%20allen%20(2).pdf

I have not won an item from Goldin auctions, but was watching stuff in the current auction. Does anyone think that his name being on the list will have negative results this weekend?

[ullmandds]

id love to hear from good old hal lewis!!!!

[ullmandds]

who is "historical collectibles?"

[xplainer]

Is Probstein123 on the list?
Or does this cover auction houses?

[Rich Klein]

From what I gleamed from Larry's post to begin this thread -- this only covers Mastro's auctions over a limited period of time.

This does not include EBay (The Probstein q) or any other auction house past or present.

Rich

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by xplainer

Is Probstein123 on the list?
Or does this cover auction houses?

Probstein123............. How about PWCC?

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

I have not won an item from Goldin auctions, but was watching stuff in the current auction. Does anyone think that his name being on the list will have negative results this weekend?

It should! I would demand an explanation before bidding further. In fact, I don't plan to purchase / bid in any auction affiliated with those on the shill list until the person involved comes on net54 to explain their actions.

As I've said in other threads before, the only way to clean up this hobby is for people to STOP SUPPORTING those who are dirty. Otherwise you only have yourself to blame for future abuse.

Jeff Payne

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

It should! I would demand an explanation before bidding further. In fact, I don't plan to purchase / bid in any auction affiliated with those on the shill list until the person involved comes on net54 to explain their actions.

As I've said in other threads before, the only way to clean up this hobby is for people to STOP SUPPORTING those who are dirty. Otherwise you only have yourself to blame for future abuse.

Jeff Payne

I only saw Kens name as a consignor not a shill person.

[Jeff_cvc]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

It should! I would demand an explanation before bidding further. In fact, I don't plan to purchase / bid in any auction affiliated with those on the shill list until the person involved comes on net54 to explain their actions.

As I've said in other threads before, the only way to clean up this hobby is for people to STOP SUPPORTING those who are dirty. Otherwise you only have yourself to blame for future abuse.

Jeff Payne

+1 your almighty dollar will speak volumes. Where you decide to spend your money is the best way to make a statement.

[mickeymao34]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

I have not won an item from Goldin auctions, but was watching stuff in the current auction. Does anyone think that his name being on the list will have negative results this weekend?

All depends on the actions of Darryl Abramowitz tonight.

ALWAYS LOOKING FOR COMPLETE TOPPS 60-70 NBA SETS THAT ARE IN GOOD TO EXCELLENT CONDITION.