HOF is a Joke

[rats60]

Originally Posted by baztacula

http://www.hallofstats.com/position/2b

I can't take that seriously when Jackie Robinson and Rod Carew are missing from that list.

[veleno45]

Originally Posted by rats60

I can't take that seriously when Jackie Robinson and Rod Carew are missing from that list.

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[trdcrdkid]

Originally Posted by rats60

I can't take that seriously when Jackie Robinson and Rod Carew are missing from that list.

Robinson played just over half of his career games at second base, and Carew played less than half of his at second. I suspect that's why they're not on the list. Plus, Robinson only played 10 seasons, so if you're looking at career numbers (as this site apparently is), he's at a disadvantage to guys who played a full career, even though he played brilliantly during those 10 years.

[baztacula]

Originally Posted by rats60

I can't take that seriously when Jackie Robinson and Rod Carew are missing from that list.

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Did you even click the link?? That isn't "the list", it's the first few. It goes to 200. For 2B, Robinson is ranked #13 and Carew is listed as #8 at 1B because the majority of his games were there, just inching out games at second base.

If you have a problem with Robinson being #13, realize that he played only 10 seasons while Whitaker played 19. Blame the racists of the time for making Jackie wait until age 28 to get to the majors. At least he's in the Hall. Whitaker was dropped after being on just one lousy ballot.

[glchen]

The thing about Whitaker, and I know it looks like you really like him, but many of his playing years in the 80s were my prime baseball card collecting years as a kid. I know you are thinking that this is some kind of joke, but seriously, at that time, no one was stocking up on Lou Whitaker cards (and I grew up in Indiana, so I was still in the Midwest). Nobody was trading their crotchety Pete Rose cards for Whitaker or their other star cards. Heck, I think if you wanted to trade a Whitaker card for a Ron Cey card, there would be a lot of pause there on whether to give up the Cey card. Back then, everyone was stocking up on Pedro Guerrerro and Cecil Cooper before or course, Donnie Baseball came along. However, Whitaker during those days was just though of as a minor star, above a common, but no one was thinking that this guy was going to make the HOF.

And don't even get me started on this Bobby Grich guy that is getting resurrected in these threads. Of course, he was before my time, but I was lucky to inherit some of the cards from my older cousin, including that 1975 Topps Grich card that I distinctly remember still. Seriously, that guy was a complete common player when doing baseball card trades.

[baztacula]

Originally Posted by glchen

The thing about Whitaker, and I know it looks like you really like him, but many of his playing years in the 80s were my prime baseball card collecting years as a kid. I know you are thinking that this is some kind of joke, but seriously, at that time, no one was stocking up on Lou Whitaker cards (and I grew up in Indiana, so I was still in the Midwest). Nobody was trading their crotchety Pete Rose cards for Whitaker or their other star cards. Heck, I think if you wanted to trade a Whitaker card for a Ron Cey card, there would be a lot of pause there on whether to give up the Cey card. Back then, everyone was stocking up on Pedro Guerrerro and Cecil Cooper before or course, Donnie Baseball came along. However, Whitaker during those days was just though of as a minor star, above a common, but no one was thinking that this guy was going to make the HOF.

And don't even get me started on this Bobby Grich guy that is getting resurrected in these threads. Of course, he was before my time, but I was lucky to inherit some of the cards from my older cousin, including that 1975 Topps Grich card that I distinctly remember still. Seriously, that guy was a complete common player when doing baseball card trades.

Yeah because baseball card trades accurately predict who goes into the Hall. I'm sure you were stocking up on all future HOFers, the "big guns" like Gaylord Perry, Tony Perez, Paul Molitor, Dennis Eckersley, Billy Williams, Bruce Sutter, Phil Niekro, & Bert Blyleven. Everyone predicted they'd be enshrined.

[Exhibitman]

Gaylord Perry was a hell of a pitcher. Bill James lists Perry as having the 10th best career of any right-handed starting pitcher.

[baztacula]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Gaylord Perry was a hell of a pitcher. Bill James lists Perry as having the 10th best career of any right-handed starting pitcher.

Yeah, but who was stockpiling his baseball cards? Nobody.