What would you grade this 52 mantle at?

[uniship]

I'd say 3.5. That upper right soft corner prevents anything higher in my opinion. Very strong card though.

[glynparson]

they, collectors universe the Psa parent company, grade coins worth far more than a low mid grade mantle every day. They have lost a card before as have other services but they aren't going to bait and switch on you. Neither would sgc or Beckett. This has been a worry since the beginning of grading and just doesn't happen, at least at the big 3. Again they have lost material just ask Dan McKee but they don't take your card and replace it with an inferior one.

[glynparson]

Somewhere in that range.

[Stampsfan]

One of the issues submitting cards to PSA from Canada is they only accept cards one of two ways.

1) Through the Post Office, Canada Post / USPS. Problem is, when you package them up and bring them into the Post Office, the most Canada Post will insure them for is $1000 CDN (which is now about $620 US). The first time I did it, I sent in close to $10K worth of cards, and basically crapped for several days until PSA sent me an email confirming receipt. The came back graded, and packaged.

2) The next package I attempted to send to them was through FedEx. On their packaging, you can document the contents as being worth whatever you'd like. However, as it was explained to me, they don't insure the package themselves; it's strictly used to document the value so you can claim it through your own insurance company. When the guy behind the counter knew what I was sending (as you have to document the contents on the Customs declaration), his eyes grew large, and I left the FedEx building with the cards in my hand.

What part of Canada are you in? There is a guy in Nova Scotia, Len Pottie, who has an agreement with PSA and has been shipping guys cards for many years. Honest guy, and knows the folks in his local Post Office. Claims he has never lost a package to PSA, and has graded tens and tens of thousands for him and Canadian customers. Now, saying that, I'm in Western Canada and have not used his services myself.

The cards I am looking to get graded now are sitting at home in my safe, among them a full set of V145-1 with the Morenz, Clancy, and Joliat RC's, a 52 Mathews (should get 5.5-6.5) and Mays (3-4), C55 Lalonde in a 6 or so, several 1957-58 Topps hockey RC's in an 8 or so, and others... so not inexpensive cards. Pushing $20K easily based on SMR value, so I'm not prepared to throw them in Canada Post for $1000 insurance. I intend to take a trip somewhere to the US when PSA does an on site submission at some point in the future... although I have no experience in doing so. I've heard the lineups can be huge, and get there early. Others can perhaps comment on that experience.

[Canofcorn]

I have a 52 Mantle in a SGC 4 holder. Luckily I live in Southern California and can do a walk in service with PSA. Unfortunately they just raised their Premium service to $700 (from $500). I should have done it in August when I intended to. Also, don't feel bad about a 4. Mine doesn't have any creases or marks, and superb color and centering - but I guess the touched corners are the reason.
So, hopefully my 4 will give you assurance that there is nothing wrong with a 3-4.

Originally Posted by Billwinkle

I compared this mantle to the others listed on e-bay in the 3-5 range, the 3-4 cards all have significant colour loss or a crease across the picture. I don't dispute what you say however I don't understand why you say it. Please give reasons for the 3-4 grade. I can see the small crease across the top corner border, and I can see the corners are soft. But there isn't even a crease on the other three cards yet you grade them the same? I am not arguing with any of your positions I just don't understand this whole grading thing. He also has the other version of the Mantle with the full black border around the logo. Is there any premium to that?

[Peter_Spaeth]

That's a heck of a nice 4.

[ALR-bishop]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

That's a heck of a nice 4.

+ 1

[cammb]

Originally Posted by Canofcorn

I have a 52 Mantle in a SGC 4 holder. Luckily I live in Southern California and can do a walk in service with PSA. Unfortunately they just raised their Premium service to $700 (from $500). I should have done it in August when I intended to. Also, don't feel bad about a 4. Mine doesn't have any creases or marks, and superb color and centering - but I guess the touched corners are the reason.
So, hopefully my 4 will give you assurance that there is nothing wrong with a 3-4.

I would make the investment and walk it into PSA. There is somethng keeping that card from an Excellent or better. If PSA slabs as a 4 then no harm. It can only go up.

[HRBAKER]

$700 for walk-in service?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by cammb

I would make the investment and walk it into PSA. There is somethng keeping that card from an Excellent or better. If PSA slabs as a 4 then no harm. It can only go up.

I really cant see SGC being in business down the line if every high dollar card is told be crossed to PSA..

plus its always interesting in the AH's than when they have a sought after item..its usually not in a PSA holder so everyone has to do the cross over game in their estimates and what they want to pay versus risk...