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Old 01-02-2016, 04:46 PM
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Interesting information but certainly misleading. We've been buying throughout Canada and have attended all of the major conventions for a little longer than John Rumierz (the first source cited by Lemke). Our experience has been the exact opposite. The ONLY place to find "quantities" of 1952 Topps third series gray backs is in Canada, with most of them turning up in and around the Toronto area. The few that we have found in the United States were most likely from Canadian sources.

Rumierz writes that he has seen "thousands of '52s with 100s of High Numbers and many Mantles" in Canada but no gray backs. It could be that he just didn't have access to enough collections and material during his travels. For comparison, we have encountered hundreds of thousands of 1952s, thousands of high numbers, and perhaps a hundred Mantles. Our total yield has been 50 or so gray backs so these cards are indeed very scarce. Chances are Rumierz just didn't see enough 1952s to find any or was searching in the wrong cities.

Not sure that those '52 are THAT rare. I pulled 30 or so out of the stock my father had in his store in Austin TX. Compared to 0 '54's. The store opened and closed pre eBay. That is why I'm not confident at all in the "Canadian" label.
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Not sure that those '52 are THAT rare. I pulled 30 or so out of the stock my father had in his store in Austin TX. Compared to 0 '54's. The store opened and closed pre eBay. That is why I'm not confident at all in the "Canadian" label.
Which ones did you have? Condition?
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I believe that the Goodwin Jackie is a gray back... card stock looks about right. The gray color does vary from card to card from what I've seen. I'm pretty certain the issue here is with the scan.
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Which ones did you have? Condition?
Fellow boarder members bought the lions share of them. They were all in 3-5 range. Sold the rest on eBay raw. None of the super rates. Multiples of Moss Judson Howell. Had a Ramazotti and Waitkus that had no qualifiers.
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Is a gray back. I just talked to the consignor who is among the most knowledgable baseball card experts on the planet and he assured me it is a gray back. The brightness of bills scans make the card look different. Also the 1954 grays are definetly from Canada as the packs say printed in Canada even if the cards do not.

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Is a gray back. I just talked to the consignor who is among the most knowledgable baseball card experts on the planet and he assured me it is a gray back. The brightness of bills scans make the card look different. Also the 1954 grays are definetly from Canada as the packs say printed in Canada even if the cards do not.

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/mob...entoryid=85196
Nice find!

Looking back at my past sales, the '54 Gray Backs sold for many multiples more than the normal '54s - I would not be surprised if this one does so as well.
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Here's a look at another '54 Gray Back where the back isn't as gray as my previous..

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