50,000 dollar removed from auction

[slidekellyslide]

I would love to own a single signed Babe Ruth baseball, but will never, ever pull the trigger. There is so much fraud in this hobby it makes me sick.

And kudos to Peter Nash for writing an entire article without mentioning Rob Lifson.

[Maddog]

The really sick part is that the government STILL hasn't done ANYTHING about this even after receiving numerous reports of fraud.
I don't know what it will take for them to take action.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by Maddog

The really sick part is that the government STILL hasn't done ANYTHING about this even after receiving numerous reports of fraud.
I don't know what it will take for them to take action.

How long has Coaches Corner been perpetrating fraud in this hobby? Certainly the FBI knows what is going on there. They obviously do not care.

[Iron Horse]

Great read, thank you for sharing

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by Maddog

The really sick part is that the government STILL hasn't done ANYTHING about this even after receiving numerous reports of fraud.
I don't know what it will take for them to take action.

Whom would they charge, and with what crime?

It's not illegal to be incompetent.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by mighty bombjack

Whom would they charge, and with what crime?

It's not illegal to be incompetent.

If it was, IMAGINE the overcrowding!

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by mighty bombjack

Whom would they charge, and with what crime?

It's not illegal to be incompetent.

That's why they changed COA to COO. The illegal part of the equation is the forgers who the FBI could easily track down by obtaining the submission records of the authentication companies. How is it that the FBI has yet to track down Coaches Corner's submitters?

[David Atkatz]

I'm pretty sure that nobody submits that shit to Coach's Corner. That crap originates with them.

[rjackson44]

agree with david 100 pct ,,scam artists where is the fbi,,,,,

[bigtrain]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

I'm pretty sure that nobody submits that shit to Coach's Corner. That crap originates with them.

My favorite item in their current auction is a Christopher Morales certified signature cut of Geronimo. They are low life criminal scum but I did get a good laugh.

[mighty bombjack]

I'm serious about my question above, though. In terms of JSA and PSA, does anyone here believe they are guilty of a crime? I'm not defending their business practices, but I see negligence here, not fraud. I love reading Nash's blog, and if these posts can help move auction houses (and thereby the general buying public) away from total dependence on these authenticators, then I'm all for it. However, when he makes statements like the last sentence of the latest post ("Sources we spoke with could not confirm whether the FBI is currently investigating PSA and JSA for their ties to fraudulent Babe Ruth memorabilia"), he seems to be intimating something for which I have seen no proof or even heard a cogent argument. We need not rehash his own transgressions, but statements like this seem to be mere deflection and a sour grapes of the hopeful kind, if you know what I mean.

Simply put, I think the alphabets are just bad at Ruth autographs. I'd love to hear about any knowledge of ties they might have to larger conspiratorial behavior. Nash sure doesn't have any, or we can bet he would be shouting it right now.

[ejharrington]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I would love to own a single signed Babe Ruth baseball, but will never, ever pull the trigger. There is so much fraud in this hobby it makes me sick.

And kudos to Peter Nash for writing an entire article without mentioning Rob Lifson.

+1

[shelly]

We all know the roaches corner. They get five hundred for there crap.
Look at what the certs from jsa and psa get for there incompetence/
I can see more and more law suits hitting these guys.