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Old 12-16-2015, 05:36 AM
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The reason I can't really take the 2013 NSCC card seriously even though it is numbered to 500 is that Memory Lane also sent one of these cards as part of their auction catalog that shipped around the same time as that National. Same front, but Memory Lane advertising back. So who knows how many thousands of these were given away. (I have one myself.) That and the fact that it's a card that was issued way after Ruth's playing days makes me believe that this card will never really have that much value. Sure, I really like the front image also, but I also like the images of a bunch of modern Topps cards for Ruth that regularly sell on ebay for less than a dollar.
+1... I got a free one with add back in my Cracker Jack Book. Same card front, why pay hundreds for an artificially limited 1 of 500? They're fantasy pieces. As a Cracker Jack set collector/owner and a huge Ruth enthusiast, the card is very well done but I don't see any real monetary value in it ever (i would expect it to decline in price). I would definitely recommend sticking to a piece from his playing days (or pre 1948 at least, which is year he died and year of the leaf issue)
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Old 12-16-2015, 06:36 AM
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+1... I got a free one with add back in my Cracker Jack Book. Same card front, why pay hundreds for an artificially limited 1 of 500? They're fantasy pieces. As a Cracker Jack set collector/owner and a huge Ruth enthusiast, the card is very well done but I don't see any real monetary value in it ever (i would expect it to decline in price). I would definitely recommend sticking to a piece from his playing days (or pre 1948 at least, which is year he died and year of the leaf issue)
funny thing is...in typical fashion...a question is posed...and the responses tend toward the self serving. "what is the best babe ruth card to get?" Well of course it's the one I have!!!!!!! What's the most esthetically pleasing card ever made? Well of course it's a card I own!!!!!!!!!!!

The OP stated period card...end of discussion re. a fantasy cj card...seriously people!!!!!!
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Old 12-16-2015, 11:35 AM
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Gents, I was under the misunderstanding that only 500 specimens of the 2013 NSCC Card that Never Was 1915 Cracker Jack Babe Ruth were ever printed. However, as you mercifully stated, Gary, the backside of the 500 appear as a fantasy Cracker Jack would have appeared, whereas Memory Lane's have their advertising printed upon it. That makes for a different case, although I imagine PSA would not encapsulate any of the Memory Lane "ad" Ruths.

I must retract, then, what I projected---a future $500 value will likely never be reached. I based my prognostication on a couple eBay entries I saw for "Buy It Now". The cheapest was $180.

As far as being self serving, Pete, I have no intention of selling my Cracker Jack Babe Ruth. Period. I could use the $500, but I'd rather keep the card. I only have one of them, and if I had more than one then yes, I would gladly part with the duplicate.

Let me say this, in my forthcoming book, NEVER CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN, I wrote of many postwar regional / food issues. Most of them I do not own; a few of them I do own. Without owning a few of them, I seriously doubt I would be able to bring as much enthusiasm and passion to the subject at all. Moreover, I was not going to sell the cards I had, just to avoid catcalls from the likes of you. I feel certain that I will still be accused of trumpeting my own cards by a few guys. WILL ISN'T THAT JUST TOO BAD? There is absolutely nothing illegal in writing about something you own.

Borrowing from another hobby of mine, in 1980 Joel Finn wrote the most thorough and authoritative work on the 1957 - 1962 Ferrari Testa Rossa racing sports cars. Without going into great detail, today they routinely auction for over $15,000,000. Mr. Finn happens to own one of them, beautifully restored, and several fine studies of HIS VERY OWN TESTA ROSSA appear on the front of the book's dust jacket. At the time he wrote his landmark book, the car was worth $1,000,000 at the very most. Try not to choke on your carefully flavored coffee, Pete, when you read these words.

Hey, I'll make ya feel better, bro. So are collecting ultra rare hyper-expensive Ferrari racing sports cars my other hobby. Well, no; collecting fine detailed 1/43rd model cars of them is my other hobby.

Many collectors, including myself, rave over the 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle. I owned a beautiful specimen for about 24 years. I miss it terribly. I will never be able to own that card again. That has not stopped me from still admiring and speaking very highly of it.

Lastly, I must embarrass myself again. I was also under the misunderstanding the original poster was inquiring about period Babe Ruth cards produced during his playing days. My bad. I chimed in on the Cracker Jack Ruth when someone else encouraged him to buy that instead. I guess my "chimed in" was more like a Quick Draw McGraw EL KABONG.

---Brian Powell

P.S. Pete----I know you think the fantasy Cracker Jack Babe is a real crock and should not be taken seriously in the least. I still seriously love this card, which is what card collecting is all about. I cannot afford a period Ruth at all. The CJ Babe gives me a card collectors fantasy at a fraction of the price a genuine would cost today. Come on, Pete, some of us are struggling financially, yet we have the nerve to like old baseball players and old cars anyway.

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Gents, I was under the misunderstanding that only 500 specimens of the 2013 NSCC Card that Never Was 1915 Cracker Jack Babe Ruth were ever printed. However, as you mercifully stated, Gary, the backside of the 500 appear as a fantasy Cracker Jack would have appeared, whereas Memory Lane's have their advertising printed upon it. That makes for a different case, although I imagine PSA would not encapsulate any of the Memory Lane "ad" Ruths.

I must retract, then, what I projected---a future $500 value will likely never be reached. I based my prognostication on a couple eBay entries I saw for "Buy It Now". The cheapest was $180.

As far as being self serving, Pete, I have no intention of selling my Cracker Jack Babe Ruth. Period. I could use the $500, but I'd rather keep the card. I only have one of them, and if I had more than one then yes, I would gladly part with the duplicate.

Let me say this, in my forthcoming book, NEVER CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN, I wrote of many postwar regional / food issues. Most of them I do not own; a few of them I do own. Without owning a few of them, I seriously doubt I would be able to bring as much enthusiasm and passion to the subject at all. Moreover, I was not going to sell the cards I had, just to avoid catcalls from the likes of you. I feel certain that I will still be accused of trumpeting my own cards by a few guys. WILL ISN'T THAT JUST TOO BAD? There is absolutely nothing illegal in writing about something you own.

Borrowing from another hobby of mine, in 1980 Joel Finn wrote the most thorough and authoritative work on the 1957 - 1962 Ferrari Testa Rossa racing sports cars. Without going into great detail, today they routinely auction for over $15,000,000. Mr. Finn happens to own one of them, beautifully restored, and several fine studies of HIS VERY OWN TESTA ROSSA appear on the front of the book's dust jacket. At the time he wrote his landmark book, the car was worth $1,000,000 at the very most. Try not to choke on your carefully flavored coffee, Pete, when you read these words.

Hey, I'll make ya feel better, bro. So are collecting ultra rare hyper-expensive Ferrari racing sports cars my other hobby. Well, no; collecting fine detailed 1/43rd model cars of them is my other hobby.

Many collectors, including myself, rave over the 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle. I owned a beautiful specimen for about 24 years. I miss it terribly. I will never be able to own that card again. That has not stopped me from still admiring and speaking very highly of it.

Lastly, I must embarrass myself again. I was also under the misunderstanding the original poster was inquiring about period Babe Ruth cards produced during his playing days. My bad. I chimed in on the Cracker Jack Ruth when someone else encouraged him to buy that instead. I guess my "chimed in" was more like a Quick Draw McGraw EL KABONG.

---Brian Powell

P.S. Pete----I know you think the fantasy Cracker Jack Babe is a real crock and should not be taken seriously in the least. I still seriously love this card, which is what card collecting is all about. I cannot afford a period Ruth at all. The CJ Babe gives me a card collectors fantasy at a fraction of the price a genuine would cost today. Come on, Pete, some of us are struggling financially, yet we have the nerve to like old baseball players and old cars anyway.
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Old 12-16-2015, 12:37 PM
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Babe Ruth B.B. Club pins for under $500 are usually around if you look hard enough. I personally like the 1934 Quaker Oates featuring a happy smiling Bambino.
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Brian is a good guy and incredibly passionate about the hobby.
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Old 12-16-2015, 01:28 PM
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It just occurred to me: the 2014 Net 54 t-shirt feature Babe's Goudey card. Maybe Leon has an extra somewhere?
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Brian is a good guy and incredibly passionate about the hobby.
+1 I've always had good interactions with Brian.
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brian...i meant no harm...just an early morning...before my 3rd cup of coffee rant about people not reading/ignoring other peoples posts.. I like the cj ruth card...for what it is...I even have one in my collection!
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