Something weird is going on here.....

[vthobby]

I was thinking almost along the same lines.....

Mike

[Jobu]

Two questions:

1) If PSA bumps your card do they keep the same cert #?

2) I am not convinced that these are the same two cards. There appear to be several small differences between the two cards (e.g., a small white line in the lower right of the background on the 9 that missing in the 8). Could just be scan differences that I see...

[vthobby]

I also noticed some slight differences but how can the cert # be the same?

Mike

[Jobu]

I know nothing about early basketball cards. Is either of these worth a significant amount of $$? There are some pretty convincing fakes out there.

[vthobby]

The PSA 8 sold for $586 earlier this year. It is possible that the PSA 9 could sell for double or more of that price. There is no price info on VCP for a PSA 9 so it will be interesting.

Mike

[pokerplyr80]

My guess is it was sent in for a review and upgraded, so PSA kept the same cert #. I am not aware if this is standard practice. I do not see any obvious signs of either card or flip being a fake.

[bobbyw8469]

Same card....it got a bump. If people are paying a premium, they are buying the flip, and not the card. Nothing has changed on the card.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

same card....it got a bump. If people are paying a premium, they are buying the flip, and not the card. Nothing has changed on the card.

if??????

[vthobby]

The interesting thing when talking to other collectors about grading and one of the most prevalent themes seems to be that if you send a higher graded vintage card like a PSA 8 that it rarely if ever bumps 1 grade higher. Maybe a .5 bump but a full 1 point upward swing is something I personally have never seen. I mean if a card was once graded a PSA 8 it MUST have something on the card that prevented it from the MINT 9 threshold and for an 8 to then be looked at and Voila it is MINT now just seems a bit weird. Especially with that top right corner.

Mike