Golden and Goodwin

[HRBAKER]

Oh, you can look away, easily.

[mechanicalman]

Generally speaking, I presume that most auction participants would not need to be reminded that Ty Cobb or Mickey Mantle, for example, were actually skilled ballplayers, so I don't know why the descriptions wax poetically about HOF stats. I do see value, however, with describing the provenance of more rare issues, as Heritage did with Leon's collection.

Additionally, I tend to call BS when every single description claims that at least one facet of the card is "worthy of a higher grade." Just ONCE, I'd love to read a description that says something like, "Generously graded a PSA 5 by PSA, the rounded corners and 65/35 centering appear worthy of a VG/EX assessment."

[Snapolit1]

Yes, I've noticed that everything is always graded very tough, and it's face appeal is always much higher than the stated grade. De rigueur.

But again, why wax poetic about what a good hitter Ty Cobb is, or how unfair Satchel Paige was treated, or talk about the historic importance of Jackie Robinson outside baseball. Not exactly breaking news.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

Generally speaking, I presume that most auction participants would not need to be reminded that Ty Cobb or Mickey Mantle, for example, were actually skilled ballplayers, so I don't know why the descriptions wax poetically about HOF stats. I do see value, however, with describing the provenance of more rare issues, as Heritage did with Leon's collection.

Additionally, I tend to call BS when every single description claims that at least one facet of the card is "worthy of a higher grade." Just ONCE, I'd love to read a description that says something like, "Generously graded a PSA 5 by PSA, the rounded corners and 65/35 centering appear worthy of a VG/EX assessment."

I've seen REA do that occasionally. I imagine his consignors either OKd it or were not terribly happy about it.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I've seen REA do that occasionally. I imagine his consignors either OKd it or were not terribly happy about it.

I believe that Rob Lifson has stated that if he feels the card is over-graded, REA will not accept it unless the seller agrees to his assessment of the card in that respect being included in the description.

Best Holiday wishes,

Larry

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

Generally speaking, I presume that most auction participants would not need to be reminded that Ty Cobb or Mickey Mantle, for example, were actually skilled ballplayers, so I don't know why the descriptions wax poetically about HOF stats. I do see value, however, with describing the provenance of more rare issues, as Heritage did with Leon's collection.

Additionally, I tend to call BS when every single description claims that at least one facet of the card is "worthy of a higher grade." Just ONCE, I'd love to read a description that says something like, "Generously graded a PSA 5 by PSA, the rounded corners and 65/35 centering appear worthy of a VG/EX assessment."

you forget 'candidate for a bump' and when emailing offers you get back from the seller 'I may send in the card to psa myself' just send it in already..

or when really poor condition card, 'aside from the hole at the top and the crease down the middle tremendous eye appeal for the grade'

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

Generally speaking, I presume that most auction participants would not need to be reminded that Ty Cobb or Mickey Mantle, for example, were actually skilled ballplayers, so I don't know why the descriptions wax poetically about HOF stats. I do see value, however, with describing the provenance of more rare issues, as Heritage did with Leon's collection.

Additionally, I tend to call BS when every single description claims that at least one facet of the card is "worthy of a higher grade." Just ONCE, I'd love to read a description that says something like, "Generously graded a PSA 5 by PSA, the rounded corners and 65/35 centering appear worthy of a VG/EX assessment."

I believe Rob Lifson does what you suggest. Go back and check through his auctions. I did it on one of my cards, but it was exactly one. SGC definitely missed the ball on something one time, and I had to make note of it. The buyers saw it in the scan anyway, so why lie?

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

Generally speaking, I presume that most auction participants would not need to be reminded that Ty Cobb or Mickey Mantle, for example, were actually skilled ballplayers, so I don't know why the descriptions wax poetically about HOF stats. I do see value, however, with describing the provenance of more rare issues, as Heritage did with Leon's collection.

Agreed. Same with the history of well known cards, like the story about how cases of 52 Topps high numbers were dumped in the ocean.

[Leon]

For auctions in general, Sometimes I read the descriptions and they can be entertaining. Most times I look at the card and try to get to the (hopeful) part of a description that tells about the card just in case there is something which can't be seen from a scan. I was looking at a beautiful SGC 30 something or another a day or two ago and had to look hard to see the wrinkle, but it was there. Had it been a higher grade I might not have looked so hard for a problem with it.