T206 'sets'

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

KO has all 9 of the known otherwise unreleased proofs. One Collins and 8 southern leaguers. Truly you wouldn't need them to complete a set, but if you own them why not add them to the count. He has a Wagner (2 if I'm not mistaken) and a Plank. I'd assume he has a Doyle, as massive as his collection is, although I can't be positive on that fact.

Unreleased proofs?????? Is there any photos of any of these. I've never heard of them. I'm sure others have but how many of those are known to exist? Who are the SL players also?

[Vintageismygame]

Link about the T206 proofs.

http://t206resource.com/Olbermann%20Proofs.html

Matt

[sbfinley]

As Josh linked, the nine KO owns are the only known "unreleased" proofs. In my opinion the Collins is massively underrated as an important rarity in the hobby being a singular T206 HOF example - proof be damned. Honestly, if it were a Cobb, Matty, Lajoie, or god-forbid another Wagner pose it would probably be one of the 10 most important items in the hobby.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

As Josh linked, the nine KO owns are the only known "unreleased" proofs. In my opinion the Collins is massively underrated as an important rarity in the hobby being a singular T206 HOF example - proof be damned. Honestly, if it were a Cobb, Matty, Lajoie, or god-forbid another Wagner pose it would probably be one of the 10 most important items in the hobby.

+1 If I could have any card added to my collection, it would be the Collins proof, or maybe the Doyle. I know this sounds idiotic, but everyone has seen pictures of a Wagner. How many people know about these?

[mybuddyinc]

Personally I think 75-100 "520" is low. Wouldn't be surprised it could actually be closer to 150. On the Monster Number thread, "we" have 57 at 500+. net54 is a great place, but "we" aren't the "end all" of collecting. How many collectors do not even know of net54, yet along do not wish to indulge their numbers ??!!

BTW, proof-wise, give me a Jax. player any day

[Cozumeleno]

Originally Posted by mybuddyinc

Personally I think 75-100 "520" is low. Wouldn't be surprised it could actually be closer to 150. On the Monster Number thread, "we" have 57 at 500+. net54 is a great place, but "we" aren't the "end all" of collecting. How many collectors do not even know of net54, yet along do not wish to indulge their numbers ??!!

BTW, proof-wise, give me a Jax. player any day

Yeah certainly agree that our MN thread is a fraction of what's out there. I'm surprised at even the number of pre-war sellers on eBay I've spoken with that either don't know of Net54 or don't come here. More often than not, actually, when I message any, they usually are not over here.

That's not even to account for all of the older collectors that aren't online at all. There are certainly some 520 sets that are stored away. I'll say this - whatever the number of 520-card sets there are out there, I think the amount of collectors with 500+ cards is significantly higher. Probably double, as is the case in the MN thread. My guess is that a lot of people get stuck at 518 or 500 or so minus high-dollar cards like the Cobbs, etc.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by mybuddyinc

Personally I think 75-100 "520" is low. Wouldn't be surprised it could actually be closer to 150. On the Monster Number thread, "we" have 57 at 500+. net54 is a great place, but "we" aren't the "end all" of collecting. How many collectors do not even know of net54, yet along do not wish to indulge their numbers ??!!

BTW, proof-wise, give me a Jax. player any day

I am fairly sure more collectors don't know about net54 than do.......now if we only count pre-war baseball card collectors who are on the internet it might be close.

[bigtrain]

Originally Posted by mybuddyinc

Personally I think 75-100 "520" is low. Wouldn't be surprised it could actually be closer to 150. On the Monster Number thread, "we" have 57 at 500+. net54 is a great place, but "we" aren't the "end all" of collecting. How many collectors do not even know of net54, yet along do not wish to indulge their numbers ??!!

BTW, proof-wise, give me a Jax. player any day

Considering that our "monster number" thread only accounts for about 50,000 cards out of the 2 million or so surviving, net54 is a small sampling.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by Sean

+1 If I could have any card added to my collection, it would be the Collins proof, or maybe the Doyle. I know this sounds idiotic, but everyone has seen pictures of a Wagner. How many people know about these?

Well Sean if you owned a Wagner then you could buy the Collins

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

Well Sean if you owned a Wagner then you could buy the Collins

Likely not. KO isn't the type to sell or flip so you are waiting on him to kick and I have a feeling his collection will go in a museum. If not, however, it will be one he'll of an auction.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

Likely not. KO isn't the type to sell or flip so you are waiting on him to kick and I have a feeling his collection will go in a museum. If not, however, it will be one he'll of an auction.

Steve it was a joke based off the price for each of them. If he had a Wagner he could sell it and then (theoretically) buy the Collins.

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

As Josh linked, the nine KO owns are the only known "unreleased" proofs. In my opinion the Collins is massively underrated as an important rarity in the hobby being a singular T206 HOF example - proof be damned.

The article says that hundreds of T206 proofs were found in the collection and Lifson picked out the one he wanted, Eddie Collins. Now we are saying that "the Eddie Collins (w/ Bat) proof remains the only unissued major-league subject known from the T206 set." What about the rest of them? Out of hundreds, was the Collins the only unissued one?

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

The article says that hundreds of T206 proofs were found in the collection and Lifson picked out the one he wanted, Eddie Collins. Now we are saying that "the Eddie Collins (w/ Bat) proof remains the only unissued major-league subject known from the T206 set." What about the rest of them? Out of hundreds, was the Collins the only unissued one?

From my understanding, yes.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

From my understanding, yes.

i believe collins was the only unissued "major leaguer"...the others were SL'ers.

[Sean]

Collins was the only unissued Major Leaguer. There were 8 unissued Minor Leaguers, all of which KO now owns. The rest were all proofs of players issued in the T206 set.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by Vintageismygame

Link about the T206 proofs.

http://t206resource.com/Olbermann%20Proofs.html

Matt

Thanks Matt & Steve!!

[Topps206]

I didn't know those existed. Those are awesome.

[bbcard1]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

Unreleased proofs?????? Is there any photos of any of these. I've never heard of them. I'm sure others have but how many of those are known to exist? Who are the SL players also?

And does he have and Edwards/Cobb Wagner….no set is complete without it.