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Old 12-08-2015, 07:02 AM
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Nobody who can afford to pay the ridiculous attorney fees? I speak primarily of the "family" lawyer and the injustice in that realm of court more so than a criminal sector anyway.

The family court and attorneys flat out give zero $h!ts about the best interest for anyone. Though the paint a pretty picture and say they do.
Do you think it's easy for a family court judge to decide which parent should get custody or how visitation should be allocated or related financial issues? I am sure in overwhelming part they do the best they can on the record before them. And nobody who loses, or isn't satisfied with the results, ever feels he or she got a fair shake.

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Old 12-08-2015, 07:07 AM
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Lets get back to Bill Mastro and what a piece of work he is---I remember standing next to him at a dealers table 20 some years ago and another collector came up to me not knowing Mastro and started talking about the T206 Wagner on how it was oversized and when it came back from psa, it was the correct size----Mastro was steaming listening and wanted to go outside with this older fellow---they didn't go outside, but I would have put my money on the old guy!
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:11 AM
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Do you think it's easy for a family court judge to decide which parent should get custody or how visitation should be allocated or related financial issues? I am sure in overwhelming part they do the best they can on the record before them. And nobody who loses, or isn't satisfied with the results, ever feels he or she got a fair shake.
Perhaps it's just my state then. Lawyers as well as members of the court repeatedly told me I had ZERO chance because of the age of a child and well I'm a male and or "Parent B". They claimed that even though the mother involved was a violent sociopath that it "didn't matter". The police were never involved therefore it is all hearsay.

So in other words even though a child could be in the wrong environment, and with a toxic human being a judge wouldn't care based strictly off a biased opinion of the sex of the parents.

NOW THAT IS JUSTICE !!!
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:16 AM
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Perhaps it's just my state then. Lawyers as well as members of the court repeatedly told me I had ZERO chance because of the age of a child and well I'm a male and or "Parent B". They claimed that even though the mother involved was a violent sociopath that it "didn't matter". The police were never involved therefore it is all hearsay.

So in other words even though a child could be in the wrong environment, and with a toxic human being a judge wouldn't care based strictly off a biased opinion of the sex of the parents.

NOW THAT IS JUSTICE !!!
Well if you witnessed something it wouldn't be hearsay, but in any event it's hard to comment on your specific case. I am not surprised if there is a presumption in favor of a mother where a young child is involved, but I very much doubt any judge would simply not care about the circumstances of a particular case. It may be that for whatever reason the judge was not convinced about the violent sociopath/toxic environment. When it's he said/she said with people who are enemies, and there isn't any objective evidence, it can be hard to know who to believe.

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Old 12-08-2015, 07:32 AM
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Well if you witnessed something it wouldn't be hearsay, but in any event it's hard to comment on your specific case. I am not surprised if there is a presumption in favor of a mother where a young child is involved, but I very much doubt any judge would simply not care about the circumstances of a particular case. It may be that for whatever reason the judge was not convinced about the violent sociopath/toxic environment. When it's he said/she said with people who are enemies, and there isn't any objective evidence, it can be hard to know who to believe.
Witnessed ????? Oh no no no no. I was the victim I had evidence in forms of photography from being physically hit and it happened in front of the child. These were cuts/bruises/hair ripped out. They all said it didn't matter.

Like I said perhaps it's my state. 2 different lawyers and 2 different mediators who were also lawyers told me that none of what I said (trust me there's a whole lot more) mattered in the eyes of the court.
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Witnessed ????? Oh no no no no. I was the victim I had evidence in forms of photography from being physically hit and it happened in front of the child. These were cuts/bruises/hair ripped out. They all said it didn't matter.
And you presented this evidence to the court?
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And you presented this evidence to the court?
I didn't. I had no lawyer couldn't afford one I had already got suckered into paying for child support and daycare.

The mediator/lawyer did his best to convince me to settle stating that if I made a trial out of the ordeal that I would end up with even less custody of my son.
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This has become the worst thread ever
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In most contentious cases there are two lawyers hearing completely opposite sides of the same story. Believe it or not, both sides usually think they are absolutely right. And the losing side always feels like an injustice was done

If things work right the issue is decided by an impartial judge and or jury rather than a homicide or kidnapping.

And this thread is no worse than it's related predecessors :-)

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