PSA? I doubt it.

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

Are those George Costanzas hands?

I hope he is " master of his domaine ", and doesn't end up like Ray McKigney...

[ls7plus]

Little point in measuring--can't determine its trimmed that way--have to look at the edges under magnification.

Larry

[vintagetoppsguy]

Exactly, Larry. That's why I said its a scary sight. A grader should never measure a card. If there is any doubt about it being trimmed, the grader should examine the cut pattern under magnification.

[glynparson]

I have never seen a grader use a ruler to measure a card for trimming.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by glynparson

I have never seen a grader use a ruler to measure a card for trimming.

You use a ruler to measure the card for factory miscut and min size. You use your eyes to check for trimming.

Hold the card horizontal to your eyes and bring your eyes from the left of the border to the right of the border. Does it seem wavy at all? Is there any inconsistencies? After you check for that you are going to look at the paper fibers and see if it has a factory stock, if it's smooth (trimmed) or some other method.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

You use a ruler to measure the card for factory miscut and min size. You use your eyes to check for trimming.

Hold the card horizontal to your eyes and bring your eyes from the left of the border to the right of the border. Does it seem wavy at all? Is there any inconsistencies? After you check for that you are going to look at the paper fibers and see if it has a factory stock, if it's smooth (trimmed) or some other method.

That's just it, Sean. Minimum Size Requirement should not even be an option. If a card is short, there are only 1 of 2 possible reasons - either it is trimmed, or it was cut short from the factory. If it was cut short from the factory, but displays characteristics of a factory cut then it should be slabbed. PSA uses that Minimum Size crap as a crutch because they don't have the knowledge to tell if a cut is factory or not.

[Fred]

David - agree with that.

The only thing is when a card is a bit too short or narrow you can tell because it just doesn't quite fit into a PSA holder.

Does PSA have a minimum size requirement for certain cards? If so, then it may be a bad idea to send a card to them if it doesn't meet the minimum requirement.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

That's just it, Sean. Minimum Size Requirement should not even be an option. If a card is short, there are only 1 of 2 possible reasons - either it is trimmed, or it was cut short from the factory. If it was cut short from the factory, but displays characteristics of a factory cut then it should be slabbed. PSA uses that Minimum Size crap as a crutch because they don't have the knowledge to tell if a cut is factory or not.

+1 there.

Best regards,

Larry