Here Is the Place, if any on this forum, for Gun Discussion

[packs]

If its your position that if a law can be broken it shouldn't be a law, then why do we have laws at all? Every law has been broken. So does that make them senseless?

Also, I don't need to be the one to come up with some singular solution so I have no idea what it is that you're trying to say when you keep asking me questions and expecting me to have some end all solution. Your line of thinking and reasoning is inherently flawed and that makes you incapable of having a meaningful conversation.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by packs

If its your position that if a law can be broken it shouldn't be a law, then why do we have laws at all? Every law has been broken. So does that make them senseless?

No, that's not my position. I'm just smart enough to know that banning guns isn't a solution and doesn't eradicate the problem. It doesn't address the millions of guns that are already in the hands of individuals. You just keep spewing your stupid rhetoric and refuse to address that point.

[packs]

What point? That something that occurred in the past occurred in the past? What are you even saying? My point is that today a person can waltz into a store and buy an AR-15 legally without hassle. That's what I'm trying to change. You keep bringing up the past. What does that have to do with increasing gun restrictions and banning the sale of certain types of weapons? I'm concerned with how easy it is to buy guns, not with the fact that people have bought guns before.

Like I said before, it's impossible for you to have anything pertinent or constructive to say.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by packs

My point is that today a person can waltz into a store and buy an AR-15 legally without hassle. That's what I'm trying to change.

Again with the stupid rhetoric, but no answers. Okay, let's say that is changed. Let's say that ALL guns are banned. You got your way. Now, what do you do about the ones already in the hands of individuals? What is to keep those out of the hands of the bad guys?

[packs]

You're the only one talking about banning all guns. It has no place in the discussion, which is centered around banning the sales of assault weapons previously banned, while not restricting your access to other types of weapons.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by packs

You're the only one talking about banning all guns. It has no place in the discussion, which is centered around banning the sales of assault weapons previously banned, while not restricting your access to other types of weapons. Obviously if you obtain a weapon illegally, you'd suffer the same consequences. So again, what is your point?

Ok, let me rephrase then...

Let's say Congress drafts a bill today that bans all assault weapons. The bill hits the president's desk tonight and he signs it into law. Tomorrow, the sell of assault weapons is banned.

Now, what do you do about the ones already in the hands of individuals? What is to keep those out of the hands of the bad guys?

[packs]

I'm not asking to be the person in charge of setting law or repercussions for breaking a law. I am advocating change. That's something you neither acknowledge nor understand. And once again, your theoretical and off base situations have nothing to do with the reality that anyone can waltz into a store today and buy an AR-15 unchecked. That AR-15 killed 14 people yesterday, a gun similar to it murdered children at Sandy Hook. Both were purchased legally. Enough is enough.

[packs]

Double post.