Heritage Wins

[RGold]

Three more upgrades to my 1933 Goudey set.

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[bobfreedman]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

Great items Bob! My finger hovered over the bid button on the Ruth late, but settled for a couple of panoramics

Thanks Jay, I was bidding on the 1912 Opening Day St. Louis Cardinals panorama and stopped bidding once I realized that I was in position to win the two that I did. I was also bidding on the Frank Chance pennant but again was happy with the two that I won.

Which panorama's did you win? They had several good ones.

[Sophiedog]

Originally Posted by RGold

Three more upgrades to my 1933 Goudey set.

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Those Goudey's are Unbelievable!

[uffda51]

Nice Goudeys!

[BeanTown]

All except the St Louis one.. I was the under bidder, but didnt feel like getting i to a bidding war like the night before. I love their format with the lots closing on an individual basis.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

picked up the esteemed Alexander!

[alaskapaul3]

In the highly unlikely, but possible, event you would happen to have a lesser specimen of this card and would like to upgrade, LMK

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Leon

Yes it is a perfect illustration of half of the debate.

Yes, that is why I said "for consignors": as a bidder I love individual lot closings and I really love it when lots close individually and overtime bidders cannot troll the auction raising bids but are confined to bidding only on items they've bid on before the overtime starts. I've won a number of items over the years far below what I would have paid simply because the rules have left me as the only one standing when OT started.

I realize AHs have to decide what balance to strike, but I can say as a consignor I have learned to look at how the close is handled as among the factors I consider when I consign.

[oldjudge]

Adam--I don't think the argument is that straight forward for consignor as you make it out to be. Many bidders will not leave up to bids. With most "all-close-at-once" auctions ending extremely late, some lots are won by the bidder who can stay up the latest. If those lots had ended earlier(likely in the individual lot closing scenario), the winning bid might have been higher due to a larger potential bidder universe.

Bruce--Fantastic image on that Anson. Congratulations!

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Adam--I don't think the argument is that straight forward for consignor as you make it out to be. Many bidders will not leave up to bids. With most "all-close-at-once" auctions ending extremely late, some lots are won by the bidder who can stay up the latest. If those lots had ended earlier(likely in the individual lot closing scenario), the winning bid might have been higher due to a larger potential bidder universe.

Bruce--Fantastic image on that Anson. Congratulations!

Just curious why you say " many bidders will not leave up to bids" ? Is that an assumption or anecdotal? In prior threads, representatives from almost every major auction house have stated that a bidders max bid, bidder ID, password etc cannot possibly be viewed by them. So what would give these bidders pause? If you want a card , but can't keep your eyelids open, I can't believe a collector would call it a night and not put in a max bid. To each his own comfort level I guess. For full disclosure, I try to stay up if I can!!

[Topnotchsy]

I was able to upgrade my 1934 Japan Tour baseball with one that Heritage claims is the most comprehensive they have ever seen. Ruth is a little faded, but Gehrig looks nice.

[btcarfagno]

Love that 34 tour ball. Comgrats. I won the photo negatives lot from the 34 tour.

Tom C

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Adam--I don't think the argument is that straight forward for consignor as you make it out to be. Many bidders will not leave up to bids. With most "all-close-at-once" auctions ending extremely late, some lots are won by the bidder who can stay up the latest. If those lots had ended earlier(likely in the individual lot closing scenario), the winning bid might have been higher due to a larger potential bidder universe.

Bruce--Fantastic image on that Anson. Congratulations!

Jay, I think that is an appealing but incorrect argument because we aren't talking about ceiling bids. The bidder who stays with the auction the latest would necessarily be making the last bid, the highest bid. Mike said it perfectly: "because those two lots went later than many others in extended time, I was not able to shift my funds around to other items that I would have bid higher on compared to what they sold at". Many collectors, myself included, operate on a budget and have to triage like Mike did. Individual closes mean no going back to use the funds that were freed up by getting topped. Real world example; When Heritage sold off the Hull Collection I liquidated a chunk of my collection in anticipation of going after some of the cards. I chased the most important ones into OT, got KO'd and ended up spending "only" 40% of my budget because I couldn't double back and go for some of the lesser items. That certainly didn't help Jeff's sales.

But even if that wasn't the case, I don't see how a ceiling bid comes into play unless you are suggesting that there are bidders who won't participate at all unless the items close individually. That hasn't been my experience; stuff even trumps felonies. If I want something and I don't want to leave a ceiling bid, I bid next increment on it, and I either get it or I get topped.

[pkaufman]

Adam....fess up.....you haven't spent your Bar Mitzvah money yet !!

[Topnotchsy]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

Love that 34 tour ball. Comgrats. I won the photo negatives lot from the 34 tour.

Tom C

Those are awesome! I somehow overlooked that auction. And I don't know what negative go for but that seems really reasonable!

[Prince Hal]

Been wanting one of the Black Swamp cards for a while.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Prince Hal

Been wanting one of the Black Swamp cards for a while.

Great pickup for an absolute steal compared to earlier sales! Where will the BSF E98s bottom out?

[jcc6252]

First Allen & Ginter - impulse bid

[Yoda]

I managed to snag one of the BSF beauties as well, the Bresnahan, at a great price. Is there some new stigma attached to these beautiful cards; they seem to selling at a significant discount? Other scores were OJ "Truthful" Jim, E92 Gibson, E120 Cobb, W501 Cobb, '14 CJ Marquard and SK Ruth. A great haul, but now I am card rich and cash poor. Life is hard when you are a dealer with the soul of a collector. John

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Yoda

I managed to snag one of the BSF beauties as well, the Bresnahan, at a great price. Is there some new stigma attached to these beautiful cards; they seem to selling at a significant discount? Other scores were OJ "Truthful" Jim, E92 Gibson, E120 Cobb, W501 Cobb, '14 CJ Marquard and SK Ruth. A great haul, but now I am card rich and cash poor. Life is hard when you are a dealer with the soul of a collector. John

There's no stigma, except there are north of a bajillion of them! The other day I saw a few in a toy arcade outside Walmart.

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[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

There's no stigma, except there are north of a bajillion of them! The other day I saw a few in a toy arcade outside Walmart.

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hahahahhaha...this is awesome!!!!!

[Koufax32fan]

I was able to win these 2, one for my Doc Oberlander collection and the other for Jewish player collection. I have been looking for a Pelty that fits my budget for awhile. I am not a T207 collector (I only have one other), so the Cycle back is kind of a bonus (as I understand the backs).

[vthobby]

I paid for my winnings on Nov 11th, 2015 via direct bank account exchange.

I just got my stuff today (December 1st, 2015).

I think I will spend my dollars elsewhere in the future. The $$$$ disappeared from my account on Nov 12th so the transfer of funds (a lot of funds!) was almost immediate.

The actual packaging of my winnings and the subsequent shipping was not.

Fool me once, fool me twice.......see ya!

Peace,

Mike

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by RGold

An impulse buy. I always wanted a T206 Bill Gregory card.

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I think I will be somewhat disappointed when I finally meet Bill if he isn't the spitting image of Mr. Titus.
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