1939 Play Ball Complete Set Group Break ~ SOLD OUT

[jburl]

Originally Posted by Danny Smith

Assuming this sells out today (I just bought another - 15 left!) when do you think this will go down?

I have one new buyer who paid by check. Assuming he doesn't decide to send paypal payment, likely Wednesday. If he paid via paypal, then it would happen next day.

Thanks!

[MW1]

I'm not singling out this particular seller/host, but I'm wondering if these group breaks would, by definition, constitute a lottery, which would be illegal per Federal law:

12 USCS § 25a , "lottery" includes any arrangement whereby three or more persons (the "participants") advance money or credit to another in exchange for the possibility or expectation that one or more but not all of the participants (the "winners") will receive by reason of their advances more than the amounts they have advanced, the identity of the winners being determined by any means which includes--

(A) a random selection;

(B) a game, race, or contest; or

(C) any record or tabulation of the result of one or more events in which any participant has no interest except for its bearing upon the possibility that he may become a winner.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by MW1

I'm not singling out this particular seller/host, but I'm wondering if these group breaks would, by definition, constitute a lottery, which would be illegal per Federal law:

12 USCS § 25a , "lottery" includes any arrangement whereby three or more persons (the "participants") advance money or credit to another in exchange for the possibility or expectation that one or more but not all of the participants (the "winners") will receive by reason of their advances more than the amounts they have advanced, the identity of the winners being determined by any means which includes--

(A) a random selection;

(B) a game, race, or contest; or

(C) any record or tabulation of the result of one or more events in which any participant has no interest except for its bearing upon the possibility that he may become a winner.

This has been hashed out. Everyone (All) gets something (a card with value) so it's not really gambling....

I should also add, what is being done could very technically be against some law somehow I guess, but I don't think there are many victims coming forward. But technically, I guess it's conceivable it isn't legal. I am not a lawyer. (obviously)

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Leon

This has been hashed out. Everyone (All) gets something (a card with value) so it's not really gambling....

I should also add, what is being done could very technically be against some law somehow I guess, but I don't think there are many victims coming forward. But technically, I guess it's conceivable it isn't legal. I am not a lawyer. (obviously)

I think it also implies direct money, a card is only worth what someone will pay for it and each card is unique as to centering and other characteristics. There has been some dealings about the implied secondary card market in value purposes but in this instance who knows

[jburl]

I can see the cause for concern, but I'm very comfortable with it for the following reasons, although I'm certainly not an attorney.
1. Everyone is guaranteed to get a card from the set.
2. The value of that card is ascribed by a secondary market.
3. Given 1 and 2, it's not much different than what card companies do when they create a product - some cards are more desirable, and therefore "worth" more on the secondary market. The difference is that I'm not creating the product; I'm outsourcing it from several decades ago.
4. I give away one slot in every break. (P.S. details on this giveaway here)

Thanks for asking, and as Leon pointed out, I think it has been hashed out in other places as well.

On a separate note, the break is sold out and scheduled to broadcast on Wednesday afternoon at 4:45 PM CST. Link to the break broadcast page is here.

Thanks again,
Justin (Burl) Burleson