Auction Houses vs. Ebay

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

Shilling with an auction house seems seems far more risky than on eBay, where a shill bidder can simply retract their bid once they find a bidder's max bid. There are routinely auctions posted on here from eBay in which bidders have dozens of retracted bids.

If I told you that there are far more retractions on AH's than on e-bay, you'd tell me to prove it. Exactly my point.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

If I told you that there are far more retractions on AH's than on e-bay, you'd tell me to prove it. Exactly my point.

I am not sure I follow you. Even though a person can't see the bidding history at an auction house, how often do you see the high bid go to, say, $10,000 at an auction house then back down an increment? If there are all these retracted bids with an auction house, why does the winning bid almost never go back down?

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

If I told you that there are far more retractions on AH's than on e-bay, you'd tell me to prove it. Exactly my point.

How do you retract a bid at an AH? Don't you have to contact them? That would seem awkward for the shiller

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

How do you retract a bid at an AH? Don't you have to contact them? That would seem awkward for the shiller

It is awkward and rarely done. Ignorance is bliss. AH's don't allow retractions unless it's some kind of extraordinary issue. On the shilling situation I would guess it is 100x worse on ebay than AH's. Both ebay and AH's have a spot in our hobby and I see both continuing to do well for the forseeable future.

[Republicaninmass]

You wouldn't see the bid go down, you get a call the next day