Crossing CJ 15s

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

You mean submit more than once?

Yes it is a PSA thing. Doesn't work with SGC because they are too consistent with their grades.

[GregMitch34]

Leon, are you saying that if you submit in the SGC case without cracking it out there is no chance they will match it?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Leon, are you saying that if you submit in the SGC case without cracking it out there is no chance they will match it?

No, I am only saying that at the high end of registry games it is a crack and resubmit industry and the TPG's do well. I have heard TPG's are much more critical of cards in competitors holders so they are normally cracked out when resubmitted. I have only resubmitted around a handful of cards as I don't play the registry game. That being said if someone gets some low pop number to be lower pop with a higher grade, they have probably made a lot of money. Again, not a game I play but there are those that do. It doesn't bother me. Grading is subjective. It is what it is.

[GregMitch34]

I've almost never done myself and always just looking for SAME grade not upgrade when going SGC to PSA. As you know, increasingly--didn't seem to be such a big deal before--there's big gap in value, unfortunately, between PSA and SGC on many cards...

[1952boyntoncollector]

[QUOTE=GregMitch34;1475135]I've almost never done myself and always just looking for SAME grade not upgrade when going SGC to PSA. As you know, increasingly--didn't seem to be such a big deal before--there's big gap in value, unfortunately, between PSA and SGC on many cards...[/QUOTE

if that's holds to be true in the difference in value..i just don't see how sgc will survive..people sell their cards eventually..if they are getting 2x more value on the psa card fo the same grade of the sgc...and people like you try to cross over....I just don't see all this arguing about sgc being sustainable over time that I get here on this board...cracker jacks are prewar..and everyone keeps telling me sgc is better for prewar yet this thread is evidence that prewar is a threat against sgc as well in favor of psa.......maybe for the less than 100 dollar cards nobody cares about the holder and I not really addressing those cards..

even if not in the flip or registry game I just don't see how this discrepancy in price can be ignored....

[GregMitch34]

To date the discrepancy has not been so severe as now...and you can justifiably argue that in judging value you go on what you paid and what it now seems to be worth. If you buy a PSA card for $800 and the same SGC card for 500 and you need to sell and just want you money back you will probably get about what you paid--and the fact that SGC is 300 less doesn't matter. The only problem is if the SGC value is actually decreasing over time so you do NOT get your money back. I'll leave to others whether they think that is in fact happening now or simply that PSA prices are generally rising so it makes SGC look weak even if holding steady.....

[vthobby]

I have submitted hundreds of cards in the past few years (maybe over a thousand! ugh!) and my personal experience is that to send them in other TPG holders when sending to TPGs is not a good idea. I have never had good success with this so I just send them in Raw or broken out of the other TPG case. In your case with such a high dollar and beautiful card, it would be a very risky crapshoot. That card is beautiful in its present holder. I would leave it but that is your call of course.

Peace, Mike