Crossing CJ 15s

[pokerplyr80]

I don't know much about the high end CJ market or crossing high grade cards. As to your second question though off center and tilted cards in general have taken a hit, and collectors have been paying big premiums for centered cards. At least on the auctions I have watched. It seems the more expensive the card the more this is true.

[Leon]

If you submit it enough it will probably get the grade you want. I have heard it works fairly well.

[GregMitch34]

You mean submit more than once?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

You mean submit more than once?

Crack and submit over and over and over. Eventually they will give you the grade you want. I hear it's an industry in and of itself.

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by Leon

Crack and submit over and over and over. Eventually they will give you the grade you want. I hear it's an industry in and of itself.

That's what the coin industry turned into 15 years ago. Some high dollar coins get submitted 20-30-40 times for a 1 point bump.

They even have consulting services to evaluate collections for upgrades.

Not to mention, auction houses will also evaluate high dollar coins and have consigners resubmit to maximize profits for everyone.

[GregMitch34]

Not to be dumb, but if you submit an SGC "8" to PSA can you say you will take no less than an 8, or can they ship back to you as a 6 to 7?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Not to be dumb, but if you submit an SGC "8" to PSA can you say you will take no less than an 8, or can they ship back to you as a 6 to 7?

yeah you can request a minimum grade for it to be slabbed by PSA when submitting an SGC card

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Not to be dumb, but if you submit an SGC "8" to PSA can you say you will take no less than an 8, or can they ship back to you as a 6 to 7?

Greg,

Like Jake said, if you do send it in the SGC holder, you MUST tell them min 8 and also spell it out in your comments: "Do not break this out unless it grades a PSA 8 or higher"

This would give me peace of mind. If you do this however, be prepared to get your SGC card back. IMO.

Peace, Mike

PS Actually since this is bothering you so much, why not just sell me the card and be done with it!?!?!?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

You mean submit more than once?

Yes it is a PSA thing. Doesn't work with SGC because they are too consistent with their grades.

[GregMitch34]

Leon, are you saying that if you submit in the SGC case without cracking it out there is no chance they will match it?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Leon, are you saying that if you submit in the SGC case without cracking it out there is no chance they will match it?

No, I am only saying that at the high end of registry games it is a crack and resubmit industry and the TPG's do well. I have heard TPG's are much more critical of cards in competitors holders so they are normally cracked out when resubmitted. I have only resubmitted around a handful of cards as I don't play the registry game. That being said if someone gets some low pop number to be lower pop with a higher grade, they have probably made a lot of money. Again, not a game I play but there are those that do. It doesn't bother me. Grading is subjective. It is what it is.

[GregMitch34]

I've almost never done myself and always just looking for SAME grade not upgrade when going SGC to PSA. As you know, increasingly--didn't seem to be such a big deal before--there's big gap in value, unfortunately, between PSA and SGC on many cards...