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Old 11-20-2015, 10:23 AM
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If Ortiz gets in the Hall, that may open the flood gates for other PED users to get into the Hall. Ortiz fails a test, and comments " I don't know what happened "? Yeah, bewildering isn't it. It's an unsolved mystery. Bagwell has been convicted in the court of public opinion due to the era he played, with nothing to back up PED usage, other than some people " thinking ".
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Old 11-20-2015, 12:09 PM
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Bagwell admitted taking Andro in 1998. It wasn't banned until 2004, but that admission might stick in the minds of voters. You asked a question I am only giving you reasonable answers as to why perception is what it is. I'm not against you or anything.

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You're right PACKS. Perception is the reality, and that appears to be enough for voters to keep Bagwell out of the Hall.
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What about some love for Jeff Kent?....his numbers are there
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What about some love for Jeff Kent?....his numbers are there
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If Ortiz gets in the Hall, that may open the flood gates for other PED users to get into the Hall. Ortiz fails a test, and comments " I don't know what happened "? Yeah, bewildering isn't it. It's an unsolved mystery. Bagwell has been convicted in the court of public opinion due to the era he played, with nothing to back up PED usage, other than some people " thinking ".
Not only that, remember he vowed that he "will not rest" until he found out how this ghastly mistake was made!
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Ken Griffey, Jr.
Mike Piazza
Curt Schilling
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Jeff Bagwell
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Billy Wagner

I don't think there is enough 'evidence' on Piazza or Bagwell to warrant their exclusion: Piazza had 'backne' and I never heard anything specific about Bagwell...other than being a gym rat at working out.
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They released the names on the pre-integration ballot. I'm hoping Harry Stovey gets in.
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Doc Adams, Sam Breadon, Bill Dahlen, Wes Ferrell, Garry Herrmann, Marty Marion, Frank McCormick, Harry Stovey, Chris von der Ahe and Bucky Walters are the candidates for Pre-Integration Era Committee consideration for Hall of Fame election for the Class of 2016.

Call me a homer but I think Chris von der Ahe and Sam Breadon both belong in as contributors.

Would love to hear from anyone who got to see Marty Marion play. Around hear we love Mr. Shortstop but being I never got to see him play I don't know if his defense was so good that he belongs in the hall. I also understand that he was pretty instrumental in bringing about the Players Pension Plan so I am sure a lot of players that came after him owe him a little gratitude.
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I still say there are two Cubans who should be in already....no, not Mark...


Minnie Minoso & Luis Tiant.
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