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Old 11-14-2015, 04:16 PM
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Default Howie or Harry ? ? ...... Camnitz

Howie

Harry



Sorry guys, but I have to differ with you.

First, with only a profile image on the lower card, there's no way that anyone can compare it with photos of Howie or Harry. On the other hand, there is a close
resemblance in the facial features (nose, ears, lips, etc.) in the images of the three top cards.

Furthermore, the lower card's image shows a more youthful face. Harry was 3 years younger than Howie.

Finally (and the clincher to this argument)....Harry's brief MLB career did not start until Sept 29, 1909. This fact then negates any belief that the "arms folded"
pose image could possibly be Harry. American Lithographic started printing their 150 Series cards in the Spring/Summer of 1909. The "arms folded" pose was
most likely drawn from a 1908 (or earlier) photo of Howie. Therefore, it's my opinion that this pose is indeed Howie (whose MLB career started in April 1904).


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Old 11-15-2015, 07:22 AM
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My guess is that instead of "errors" the set consists of cards that use generic images for current players like Buchner Gold Coin or e91 cards. The distributers were using images that were 5 years old and they were trying to include new cities and players to increase demand for the "new" cards of current players.

Wow ! ......your Street and Meyers are great looking cards.

The Meyers / Brooklyn is the first one that I've seen. This T213 is a tough 1916 card.
The 1914 (or 1915) New York NL version of Meyers is much more common.

Thanks for showing them to us.

Let's see some more of them.


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Old 11-15-2015, 01:44 PM
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Ted, I understand that the arms folded card is Howie, and so is the T205. And the profile card is Harry.

It's the other card that I question. In the hands above head card the face seems older (so Howie), but the features seem to be a closer match to Harry.
Also,the Coupon card that Scott posted above uses the same picture, and that is intended to be Harry, who played on Savannah.

So my best guess is that the hands above head card is Harry Camnitz.

PS- That is a great Street, Nashville card.

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Old 11-15-2015, 02:20 PM
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Ted, I understand that the arms folded card is Howie, and so is the T205. And the profile card is Harry.

It's the other card that I question. In the hands above head card the face seems older (so Howie), but the features seem to be a closer match to Harry.
Also,the Coupon card that Scott posted above uses the same picture, and that is intended to be Harry, who played on Savannah.

So my best guess is that the hands above head card is Harry Camnitz.

PS- That is a great Street, Nashville card.
So there are two Camnitz's in the T206 set? I thought they were all Howie, had no idea of a Harry.
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Hi Rob, your PSA card of Wilson says "Type II", but with the black font, it must be a type one. There is only 1 Wilson card in the Type II set, and that card shows him with St Louis. Is your Wilson card a Type I?

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