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Old 11-12-2015, 11:52 AM
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Again, any time you want an honest back and forth I'll need you to promise not to ban me. And agree to waive any attorney-client privilege we may have had. Otherwise there's no point. You'll just ban me as soon as you decide you don't like what I'm writing.
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Old 11-12-2015, 12:14 PM
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Again, any time you want an honest back and forth I'll need you to promise not to ban me. And agree to waive any attorney-client privilege we may have had. Otherwise there's no point. You'll just ban me as soon as you decide you don't like what I'm writing.
I always want honesty, Jeff. And since I do I will rephrase my question then happily answer yours.

Have you ever used someone else's account to bid in an auction you were banned from?

And I promise not to ban you if you answer that question.
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Old 11-12-2015, 12:17 PM
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I always want honesty, Jeff. And since I do I will rephrase my question then happily answer yours.

Have you ever used someone else's account to bid in an auction you were banned from?

And I promise not to ban you if you answer that question.
Again, if you promise not to ban for anything I say, I'll answer that question and then I have one for you. But you'll have to waive attorney-client privilege as well. Because, well, you know.

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Again, if you promise not to ban for anything I say, I'll answer that question and then I have one for you. But you'll have to waive attorney-client privilege as well. Because, well, you know.
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Old 11-12-2015, 12:40 PM
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I always want honesty, Jeff. And since I do I will rephrase my question then happily answer yours.

Have you ever used someone else's account to bid in an auction you were banned from?

And I promise not to ban you if you answer that question.
I don't want banned but am interested in opinions on Leon's question in general.

I have had a friend buy an item off eBay for me because the seller banned me from bidding on their items. All I did to get banned was ask the seller a question about a error card they had listed. Never got a response so I did not bid. Later same seller was selling a card I wanted and when I tried to bid I couldn't.

Is what I done considered bad? I just assumed as long as the buyer got their $ and I ended up with the card everything was ok.
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On the original topic, I paid today and received my order today (about two hours later). I was critical of them here in the past when I had to wait over a month for my order, so I'd like to thank them for the much more pleasant experience this time around.
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Have had only one questionable transaction with PWCC and that was handled promptly and without rancor. In one of their recent auctions I bid and won a Mayo Ward 2nd base, wanting a nice copy since I already held the retired version which was also on offer but a lower grade and much cheaper. Well, guess which one I received, which was duly returned and I duly got the correct card. Don't think Brent was involved but might have been. I don't really suspect foul play but hell this is a serious game we play with these cards. John
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I don't want banned but am interested in opinions on Leon's question in general.

I have had a friend buy an item off eBay for me because the seller banned me from bidding on their items. All I did to get banned was ask the seller a question about a error card they had listed. Never got a response so I did not bid. Later same seller was selling a card I wanted and when I tried to bid I couldn't.

Is what I done considered bad? I just assumed as long as the buyer got their $ and I ended up with the card everything was ok.
I think it would depend on the circumstances. There's probably more to the situation leon and jeff were talking about and I have no opinion on that. As far as your case the seller got paid and you got a card you wanted I don't really see a problem personally. However the seller you banned you might disagree.
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I don't want banned but am interested in opinions on Leon's question in general.

I have had a friend buy an item off eBay for me because the seller banned me from bidding on their items. All I did to get banned was ask the seller a question about a error card they had listed. Never got a response so I did not bid. Later same seller was selling a card I wanted and when I tried to bid I couldn't.

Is what I done considered bad? I just assumed as long as the buyer got their $ and I ended up with the card everything was ok.
You won't get banned. The guys that have been banned have histories of being warned about their unfriendliness on the board. If I do something wrong and it's pointed out, you won't get banned for that.

To your question, the question to Jeff (who can't answer on the board now) was had HE used someone else's account to bid in an auction he was banned from. I think that is different if you have someone not banned bid for you. But that is just my opinion and sort of still wrong, ethically. As a collector I can understand the emotion with our gems.
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You won't get banned. The guys that have been banned have histories of being warned about their unfriendliness on the board. If I do something wrong and it's pointed out, you won't get banned for that.

To your question, the question to Jeff (who can't answer on the board now) was had HE used someone else's account to bid in an auction he was banned from. I think that is different if you have someone not banned bid for you. But that is just my opinion and sort of still wrong, ethically. As a collector I can understand the emotion with our gems.
man he was just about to convince me everything he said was right and everything I said was wrong...
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:44 PM
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man he was just about to convince me everything he said was right and everything I said was wrong...
You should have been convinced.
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