Heritage auctions payment

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Yes but when you factor in the shill bidding opportunities at PWCC, with so many top bidders having multiple bid retractions and somehow only bidding on PWCC cards, I'm guessing it evens out.

what bidder history besides number of bids do we get to see with heritage? .if nothing..that means no shilling there too (assuming shilling on every single card at pwcc) ? we do know the tax hit is there at heritage over pwcc for sure that's 100%.. (bid retraction a non issue as you can retract your bid if someone retracts a bid making yours the high bid)

if there was zero bid history on ebay...all of the sudden there is no shilling I gather..

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

what bidder history besides number of bids do we get to see with heritage? .if nothing..that means no shilling there too (assuming shilling on every single card at pwcc) ? we do know the tax hit is there at heritage over pwcc for sure that's 100%.. (bid retraction a non issue as you can retract your bid if someone retracts a bid making yours the high bid)

if there was zero bid history on ebay...all of the sudden there is no shilling I gather..

I don't believe the owners of Heritage have ever come onto Net 54 and gotten caught lying the way Brent did. Let me guess -- that doesn't matter either?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I don't believe the owners of Heritage have ever come onto Net 54 and gotten caught lying the way Brent did. Let me guess -- that doesn't matter either?

so no transparency with Heritage (or other auction houses, i am not singling out heritage ) means no 100% no shilling....if never caught means never have done....plus pay 5-7% tax....no that CANT be a reason that other AHs may go for more at hammer when the bidders don't have to pay the Tax..which on a card in the thousands can be hundreds of dollars if not thousands.

Heritage (or any other auction house with a Sales Tax in which PWCC does not have ) has NEVER been accused of any impropriety such as excessive shipping or shilling and never any lawsuits with those allegations...

and their bid history is so clear and transparent that who are we to question any shilling..

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

so no transparency with Heritage means no 100% no shilling....if never caught means never have done....plus pay 5-7% tax....no that CANT be a reason that other AHs may go for more at hammer when the bidders don't have to pay the Tax..which on a card in the thousands can be hundreds of dollars if not thousands.

Heritage has NEVER been accused of any impropriety such as excessive shipping or shilling and never any lawsuits with those allegations...

and their bid history is so clear and transparent that who are we to question any shilling..

Again, no one from Heritage has ever been caught lying on Net 54 the way Brent was. Sorry, but for most of us that matters. And I think if you asked around Net 54 they would agree that Heritage is a way more reputable outfit than PWCC is.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Again, no one from Heritage has ever been caught lying on Net 54 the way Brent was. Sorry, but for most of us that matters. And I think if you asked around Net 54 they would agree that Heritage is a way more reputable outfit than PWCC is.

yeah just ask around......brent still posts here..it doesn't look like whatever you accuse him of is so inexcusable or something that has been proven in the present business model to avoid him getting active business....15 years from now with no proof you still going to be talking about a post or 2 on net54..any lawsuit on the issue that punished him ?

and again...no transparency with bid history means no shilling......i think if you asked around, most people would agree that eBay's bid history is much better then Heritage...its apples and oranges you cant compare the 2 unless its the same bid history we can both view...

[calvindog]

Again, I'd trust Heritage ahead of PWCC and so would most I'm guessing on Net 54. And unlike you I'm not a consigner for the auction house I'm supporting here. No financial motive at all. Doug Allen lied on Net 54 and so did Brent. Plenty of people still bid in Mastro auctions regardless of that. And I'm not claiming Brent is Doug Allen. But just because Brent lied, got caught and people still bid in his auctions doesn't really mean much.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Again, I'd trust Heritage ahead of PWCC and so would most I'm guessing on Net 54. And unlike you I'm not a consigner for the auction house I'm supporting here. No financial motive at all. Doug Allen lied on Net 54 and so did Brent. Plenty of people still bid in Mastro auctions regardless of that. And I'm not claiming Brent is Doug Allen. But just because Brent lied, got caught and people still bid in his auctions doesn't really mean much.

Have you ever had someone bid for you in an auction you were banned from?