T206 Gilbert Missing Red?

[caramelcard]

I agree that it looks legit. Hard to put a price on it, but my opinion is that an ebay auction would find enough interested parties to determine it's value.

Rob

[steve B]

It looks like it may be an actual missing color. Red is tricky because it fades so much from light.

The couple T206s I have that I believe are actually missing color are missing at least two colors.
So if it's missing one of the other colors I'd say it's most likely unaltered.

Value is always difficult with these.
I'd have bought it for sure at $21, and probably a bit higher. Hard to tell where that limit would be, 40-50 might make me pause a bit. Others would stop earlier or later.
At the $640 of the Ebay BIN I'd probably be out because of budget, but with a really good scan I'd be interested.

I think Robs suggestion of auctioning it on Ebay (Or even here) would be the best route. The question then would be the starting price.
I've picked up a few nice cards on Ebay I think because others avoided an auction for what looked like an altered card.

Somewhere well above the $21, but also well under the 640 ........Yeah, I'm not being real helpful on price.

Start with a nice big scan, 600dpi, maybe Higher. 1200 will show nearly everything.
Of course that would have to be hosted somewhere besides here or Ebay where the scans get reduced.

Steve B

[Bocabirdman]

I do not sell on eBay but I am finishing up the details with a friend who does. I guess we shall see what the world thinks

[irishdenny]

Hi Mike!,

Fir what its worth...
I have tracked, Sold, Collect & Collected Anomaly's.

I would venture ta guess that a Good Price fir this one
iN ta days Market would be between $150 - $200!

"NiCe Catch!"

jmho...

Good Luck wit the Sale!!!

[mrvster]

sorry to be late to the party!!! raw like this, $150.00- $200.00 EXACTLY what denny said....

if it were slabbed as " missing magenta" or " missing red ink" $600- $800.00



these have become "tricky" some are legit( Sweeney no "B").......other are sun/ chemical faded as steve said...

must be careful with these....$150.00 is a fair price on it

[Jantz]

I'm waiting for the glue/adhesive to leach out the red ink on the back, so my McGinnity will then be a blank back.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by steve B

It looks like it may be an actual missing color. Red is tricky because it fades so much from light.

The couple T206s I have that I believe are actually missing color are missing at least two colors.
So if it's missing one of the other colors I'd say it's most likely unaltered.

Value is always difficult with these.
I'd have bought it for sure at $21, and probably a bit higher. Hard to tell where that limit would be, 40-50 might make me pause a bit. Others would stop earlier or later.
At the $640 of the Ebay BIN I'd probably be out because of budget, but with a really good scan I'd be interested.

I think Robs suggestion of auctioning it on Ebay (Or even here) would be the best route. The question then would be the starting price.
I've picked up a few nice cards on Ebay I think because others avoided an auction for what looked like an altered card.

Somewhere well above the $21, but also well under the 640 ........Yeah, I'm not being real helpful on price.

Start with a nice big scan, 600dpi, maybe Higher. 1200 will show nearly everything.
Of course that would have to be hosted somewhere besides here or Ebay where the scans get reduced.

Steve B

I have found the colors on the T206 cards do not fade easily and that includes the red. The faded T206 cards that are seen sat out on display for many years to get that way.

Chemical altering is different but if you just sit one out in the sun or in a specially designed box with a very powerful light source it takes longer to see just a little change in a T206 than it takes to completely remove colors from 1950-Present cards. That is what I hear from a friend.

If true it is a very good thing that SGC is going to stop grading missing color cards as very few actually left the factory missing colors compared to the never ending supply of missing color cards available.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I have found the colors on the T206 cards do not fade easily and that includes the red. The faded T206 cards that are seen sat out on display for many years to get that way.

Chemical altering is different but if you just sit one out in the sun or in a specially designed box with a very powerful light source it takes longer to see just a little change in a T206 than it takes to completely remove colors from 1950-Present cards. That is what I hear from a friend.

If true it is a very good thing that SGC is going to stop grading missing color cards as very few actually left the factory missing colors compared to the never ending supply of missing color cards available.

The couple I bought supposedly had around 40 years of exposure. Framed and hung in a barbershop. I figured they'd be good cards to look at for clues like whether the formerly red ink was visible as a glossy area. It was on one and wasn't on the other.

Others from the same seller did get slabbed, and I believe that group may have been what made SGC decide not to slab them anymore.

Steve B