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[Leon]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Everyone was envious of Mastro too. And many on Net 54 defended them from the pre-investigation stage, through indictment and sentencing. How else do you think fraudsters can be so successful ripping people off so blatantly in this hobby? It's not because the average collector is highly intelligent.

Everyone was envious of Madoff too. From what I recall there wasn't as much defending of Mastro and gang as there was a call to allow justice to work. That is the same as you defending the people you do. No different.

PS.....I am not defending some bidders and their issues in the current auctions being talked about.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Leon

Everyone was envious of Madoff too. From what I recall there wasn't as much defending of Mastro and gang as there was a call to allow justice to work. That is the same as you defending the people you do. No different.

It couldn't be more different, actually, again. My motives in defending people are based on the oath I take to assist people in asserting their constitutional rights. People defended Mastro for many other reasons.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by calvindog

It couldn't be more different, actually, again. My motives in defending people are based on the oath I take to assist people in asserting their constitutional rights. People defended Mastro for many other reasons.

In other words you defend criminals who do bad things in our hobby. I get it, actually we all get it.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Leon

Again, you skirt my comment. But you can continue saying people defended Mastro all you want to, it won't change what the reality was.

Reality, not revisionist history:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...t=81430&page=2

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ghlight=mastro

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=208076

[Leon]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Reality, not revisionist history:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...t=81430&page=2

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ghlight=mastro

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=208076

First of all don't give me the crap about constitutional rights. Every person has a right to a lawyer in court. Secondly, you can throw out all of those threads and I am not going to read them. You show me specifically where I said any of those guys didn't do anything wrong and I will say I was wrong (something you don't even know how to do let alone do)

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Leon

Secondly, you can throw out all of those threads and I am not going to read them.

I wouldn't want to read those threads either if I were you.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I wouldn't want to read those threads either if I were you.

I went back and read some of those posts just for kicks. You are right and I was wrong. Before any indictments I was defending them but never did I say they absolutely did nothing wrong. As far as I know, at the time, no one knew for sure. I wanted the justice system to play out and it did. They are being punished for their crimes. That is a good thing. That is how we learn.
I was hoping for the best for them and it turned out they were liars and thieves. I had considered them hobby friends.....what more can I say?

Now back to those nagging little questions I had.....

[Leon]

And why is it you have so many hobby'ists as customers, Mr. Criminal Defense Attorney? Seems a bit odd to go after some of the same people you take money from...or maybe you go after others to divert attention from your card doctor clients?

Originally Posted by calvindog

Reality, not revisionist history:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...t=81430&page=2

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ghlight=mastro

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=208076

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Leon

And why is it you have so many hobby'ists as customers, Mr. Criminal Defense Attorney? Seems a bit odd to go after some of the same people you take money from...or maybe you go after others to divert attention from your card doctor clients?

Waiting for these answers Jeff....they aren't going away either.

Here is you diverting attention from one of your clients who has allegedly made falsely stamped cards.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=208345


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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

It couldn't be more different, actually, again. My motives in defending people are based on the oath I take to assist people in asserting their constitutional rights. People defended Mastro for many other reasons.

And here I thought you only done it for the large amounts of cash they pay you.

With Mastro he seemed to have 2 types of friends. The ones he completely screwed over and the ones that got the spoils from his costumers that he screwed over. From reading all the threads on here about the huge scam he run for many years there where both those types of friends on this forum and unfortunately a few customers.