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Old 11-09-2015, 09:44 PM
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I'm 35 and growing up the 52 Mantle was the ultimate dream card. I was a big baseball fan and new some history, but as for the cards I just knew his were the most valuable and didn't question why. Whatever the reason, or reasons, it has been the case for quite a while and don't see it changing. I agree with peter's statement that this belief will be passed down to future collectors, with or without valid reasons.
I'm 38, and would concur with your assessment of Mantle's role in the hobby, which continues today but especially from when we were growing up. He's the king of the postwar hobby despite career stats and records because New York and the 1950's was the perfect intersection of time and place for baseball. When baseball nostalgia became a full-blown thing by the early 1990's (The Natural, Field of Dreams, card shops on every corner...) and the baby boomers wanted a piece of that nostalgia, they turned to Mickey Mantle. Forget that Ted Williams batted nearly 50 points higher for his career or that Stan Musial had 600+ more hits or that all things considered - Willie Mays was the best NY centerfielder - Mickey was the guy in those NYY pinstripes. Just how it worked out. I bought into the mystique too, but have to settle for my VG-ish '56 Topps Mantle instead of a '52 Grail or '51 Bowman.
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Old 11-09-2015, 10:04 PM
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I still think the Bowman 1951 Mays are way undervalued that have ok centering....there is no magical 1952 topps Mays to deal with like the 1951 mantle has to deal with..and the 1952 Topps Mays are taking off...I think the 1951 Mays Bowman grade for grade will get closer to their 1952 Topps counterparts at a surprising level....as we know 1951 Mantles are still very valuable but I just don't see the price jump with them compared to the magical Mantle 1952 Topps counterparts.

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Old 11-10-2015, 08:56 AM
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I still think the Bowman 1951 Mays are way undervalued that have ok centering....there is no magical 1952 topps Mays to deal with like the 1951 mantle has to deal with..and the 1952 Topps Mays are taking off...I think the 1951 Mays Bowman grade for grade will get closer to their 1952 Topps counterparts at a surprising level....as we know 1951 Mantles are still very valuable but I just don't see the price jump with them compared to the magical Mantle 1952 Topps counterparts.
I absolutely agree and most of mays cards are under valued .

As far as the bond bread I've noticed most collector have no idea about cards like this . Even some collector that would describe them self as hardcore .
They don't even know the story of 1952 mantle harbor dump .
I alway confused when I meet someone that says they collect cards and they really don't know much about it .

On that note it's hard for me to agree 100% on the notion that it will increase in value . It has to be wanted by all levels of collectors . While most to all the guys here I'm sure would love to have at least one of those bond bread cards . The average collector doesn't know they exist .

Whitey Ford will see an increase in his stuff but not his autographs because there everywhere .

The 60s pop up cards in good condition seem like they have room to grow because I always see pop examples and really tattered looking cards .
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Old 11-09-2015, 11:08 PM
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I'm 38, and would concur with your assessment of Mantle's role in the hobby, which continues today but especially from when we were growing up. He's the king of the postwar hobby despite career stats and records because New York and the 1950's was the perfect intersection of time and place for baseball. When baseball nostalgia became a full-blown thing by the early 1990's (The Natural, Field of Dreams, card shops on every corner...) and the baby boomers wanted a piece of that nostalgia, they turned to Mickey Mantle. Forget that Ted Williams batted nearly 50 points higher for his career or that Stan Musial had 600+ more hits or that all things considered - Willie Mays was the best NY centerfielder - Mickey was the guy in those NYY pinstripes. Just how it worked out. I bought into the mystique too, but have to settle for my VG-ish '56 Topps Mantle instead of a '52 Grail or '51 Bowman.
The only Mantle card in my collection up until a couple of years ago was a beat up 58 world series batting foes Mantle/Aaron that might grade a 3 if I ever sent it in. I'm sure I never will. I've had it since I was a kid and I still love it. Only in the last year or so was I able to add a couple I always dreamed of. I'd still prefer better condition but they are cool to have. Hopefully you'll be able to add to your 56 as well.
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Old 11-10-2015, 08:28 AM
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The only Mantle card in my collection up until a couple of years ago was a beat up 58 world series batting foes Mantle/Aaron that might grade a 3 if I ever sent it in. I'm sure I never will. I've had it since I was a kid and I still love it. Only in the last year or so was I able to add a couple I always dreamed of. I'd still prefer better condition but they are cool to have. Hopefully you'll be able to add to your 56 as well.
I too had the '58 Mantle / Aaron as a kid, and thought it was about the coolest thing in the world. 😀 I can still see it sitting there in a thick screw-down case under showcase glass at the old Red Lantern hobby shop in Cotswold Mall in Charlotte, NC. Persuaded my mom to shell out for it; can't remember what the price tag was, but had to be under $100. I eventually traded that one (must have been VG-ish, and I recall it being off-center) and replaced it much later as a young adult in my 20's with a real nice one - like EX-MT to NM and well-centered. That one lasted only a few years before falling victim to what I now refer to as my "dealer-scum" phase, where I wound up gradually buying way more cards than I could afford....and of course had to sell most of them off.

The '56 Topps Mantle is one that (fortunately) I held on to from childhood. Traded everything I carried into a shop for it one day along about 1990. Worth it. Also only about a VG card, but I wouldn't trade the memory for anything.
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