PWCC green cobb psa 5.5 going through the roof

[bxb]

Winning bidder:

30-Day Summary
Total bids: 201
Items bid on: 148
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 87% Help
Bid retractions: 0
Bid retractions (6 months): 18

[iwantitiwinit]

18 bid retractions wtf? Is it possible this could be retracted after the auction and the card gets re-offerred to the 1st real bidder? Honestly I don't understand why someone no matter how satisfied they are with a particular seller would be willing to pay 150% of recent market value. It makes no sense.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

18 bid retractions wtf? Is it possible this could be retracted after the auction and the card gets re-offerred to the 1st real bidder? Honestly I don't understand why someone no matter how satisfied they are with a particular seller would be willing to pay 150% of recent market value. It makes no sense.

Unless the market is changing for these types of cards. Someone paid about a 100% premium on recent market value for that PSA 7 52 Mantle on Heritage. Would we all be making shill accusations if that had been a PWCC auction?

[iwantitiwinit]

I don't know, I would need to see the id's and bidding history of the people winning the Heritage auctions but that transparency doesn't exist.

[mechanicalman]

Cobb Buyer just lost out on the Plank by $100. Probably first loss of the evening, but man, what a shopping spree! Is there a "PayPal Black" for super high rollers?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

Cobb Buyer just lost out on the Plank by $100. Probably first loss of the evening, but man, what a shopping spree! Is there a "PayPal Black" for super high rollers?

I don't understand some ebayers. Here is the buyer of the Cobbs feedback..18 bid retractions in 6 months. Most of us have almost 0 in forever. I think I have 0-1 total in around 16 yrs

I should add that I think PWCC is a good seller and is honest. ....(and they are an advertiser). I think I have bought from them before and would again.


30-Day Summary
Total bids: 202
Items bid on: 148
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 87% Help
Bid retractions: 0
Bid retractions (6 months): 18



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[mechanicalman]

Originally Posted by Leon

I don't understand some ebayers. Here is the buyer of the Cobbs feedback..18 bid retractions in 6 months. Most of us have almost 0 in forever. I think I have 0-1 total in around 16 yrs


30-Day Summary
Total bids: 202
Items bid on: 148
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 87% Help
Bid retractions: 0
Bid retractions (6 months): 18



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Honestly, I don't know how to retract a bid. Is there a button? Seriously, I have no idea - never felt compelled to go back on an offer.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by Leon

I don't understand some ebayers. Here is the buyer of the Cobbs feedback..18 bid retractions in 6 months. Most of us have almost 0 in forever. I think I have 0-1 total in around 16 yrs

I should add that I think PWCC is a good seller and is honest. ....(and they are an advertiser). I think I have bought from them before and would again.


30-Day Summary
Total bids: 202
Items bid on: 148
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 87% Help
Bid retractions: 0
Bid retractions (6 months): 18



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PWCC honest? Yes they are maybe as honest as ..........

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

I don't know, I would need to see the id's and bidding history of the people winning the Heritage auctions but that transparency doesn't exist.

+++ Exactly. REA/Mile High/Memory Lane/Heritage/H&S....all have one thing in common; proprietary bidding software with no transparency. If you want to make an argument about shilling, start their first.

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

+++ Exactly. REA/Mile High/Memory Lane/Heritage/H&S....all have one thing in common; proprietary bidding software with no transparency. If you want to make an argument about shilling, start their first.

+1

[Iron Horse]

The PSA 4 in Goldin auction is over 5k already. Guess Cobb is catching the Mantle fever

[mechanicalman]

The winning bidder is cleaning up on all the nicely centered T206s. Same dude has bought 4 other cards I was looking at and also has a $3100 bid on the Cy Young Polar Bear. Must be nice to have significant funds and very little price sensitivity.

[iwantitiwinit]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

The winning bidder is cleaning up on all the nicely centered T206s. Same dude has bought 4 other cards I was looking at and also has a $3100 bid on the Cy Young Polar Bear. Must be nice to have significant funds and very little price sensitivity.

If it's a real buyer. Hey real possible buyer I have some high grade nicely centered cards that I can sell you at only 125% of recent market prices.

[kickitup]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

If it's a real buyer. Hey real possible buyer I have some high grade nicely centered cards that I can sell you at only 125% of recent market prices.

Here I am, the "real possible buyer".... If you actually have some "high grade, nicely centered cards", feel free to contact me with scans and prices and I will evaluate the opportunity. If not, please refrain from attempting to act like blowhard on some online forum.

I won these auctions because I wanted them more than anyone else. I don't shill, I buy cards at prices that I feel are appropriate, whether you do or not. I have collected for years and purchased cards from multiple sources including ebay, Memory Lane, Heritage, Greg Bussineau. I have bid at Mile High and SCP as well.

If any of you have a problem with the way I bid or who I choose to bid with, too bad. I deal with people I trust and Brent/PWCC Auctions is one of them.

My email is jcornett@liquidity-partners.com.

** BTW, the reason my account has bid retractions was over a heavy disagreement with a seller I was bidding with. My confidence in their service was affected so I canceled my bids with them to protect myself. The seller later apologized, and I later won all the cards that I bid on in which the bids were retracted.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by kickitup

Here I am, the "real possible buyer".... If you actually have some "high grade, nicely centered cards", feel free to contact me with scans and prices and I will evaluate the opportunity. If not, please refrain from attempting to act like blowhard on some online forum.

I won these auctions because I wanted them more than anyone else. I don't shill, I buy cards at prices that I feel are appropriate, whether you do or not. I have collected for years and purchased cards from multiple sources including ebay, Memory Lane, Heritage, Greg Bussineau. I have bid at Mile High and SCP as well.

If any of you have a problem with the way I bid or who I choose to bid with, too bad. I deal with people I trust and Brent/PWCC Auctions is one of them.

My email is jcornett@liquidity-partners.com.

** BTW, the reason my account has bid retractions was over a heavy disagreement with a seller I was bidding with. My confidence in their service was affected so I canceled my bids with them to protect myself. The seller later apologized, and I later won all the cards that I bid on in which the bids were retracted.

Nice response and thanks for the quick phone call just now. As I said, and you are very cool with, your name needs to be out here in this kind of post....per the rules. So it is Jus.tin C0rn.ett....thanks man!!

[bobbyw8469]

I deal with people I trust and Brent/PWCC Auctions is one of them.

I like this statement and all, but PWCC doesn't own any of the cards they sell. They are merely a broker. Subject to whatever whims the consignor has on his items. But hey, as long as you are happy.....

[kickitup]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I like this statement and all, but PWCC doesn't own any of the cards they sell. They are merely a broker. Subject to whatever whims the consignor has on his items. But hey, as long as you are happy.....

Just like any other auction house where a consignor might call a friend and have his friend bid on an item for him? It is risky to do that, but perfectly legal. As long as the person who wins the item pays for the item in full including auction house fees, it is legal. Risky, but legal.

Why do you believe that it matters or not to buyers if PWCC sells their own private items or if they represent the owners of the cards and charge a fee for their service? Just because PWCC has chosen broker sports cards on ebay and you has a loyal group of buyers does not make them less legitimate. I can assure you Memory Lane, Heritage, SCP and other auction houses have loyal followings as well.

Personally, I use PWCC almost exclusively to purchase items on ebay because I buy all sorts of cards from all sorts of sports and am a busy person. I do not want to spend hours upon hours searching ebay listings looking for items that might or might not be a fit for my collection. I find it very easy to type in PWCC into ebay search and sort what I might be interested in that day. Its very simple and easy for a collector like me to find items this way as compared to searching online forums or contacting friends, past acquaintances or other auction houses who might or might not have what I am looking for at the time.

Any speculation as to what my motives are or why I use certain sellers more than others is pure conjecture and quite frankly a waste of everyone's time. If I am willing to pay more than you, I will win, period. If am am not the highest bidder, I won't win. It is real simple. Some of the folks here that are alleging shilling and bid retractions have not a clue what the 'real story' is are likely just pissed because they don't have a green cobb now and want one at a below market price. But of course, that speculation is conjecture on my part and really doesn't hold any weight.

So yes "as long as I am happy" I will use whoever I want to buy or sell items for me. It saddens me to think that Brent or my reputation is at question here when in reality, it could not be farther from the truth. Collecting cardboard is supposed to be fun...

I do not see any further need to justify my actions here on this board, but some of the folks just need to grow up and worry about their own issues. Stop trying to create conspiracy theories to explain random market fluctuations and record prices. The real reason prices are going up is there are buyers that are willing to pay more for cards than have been paid in the past. When the buyers are outnumbered by the sellers, prices will go down. Its called a 'market' and it is quite simple.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by kickitup

Here I am, the "real possible buyer".... If you actually have some "high grade, nicely centered cards", feel free to contact me with scans and prices and I will evaluate the opportunity.

Justin, are you the one who bid up that T206 Home Run Baker card to $6k?

Because if so,you may be getting some of those opportunities that you mentioned.

And also, welcome to the board.

[kickitup]

Originally Posted by Sean

Justin, are you the one who bid up that T206 Home Run Baker card to $6k?

Because if so,you may be getting some of those opportunities that you mentioned.

And also, welcome to the board.

yep, that was unfortunate. you live and learn i guess

[kickitup]

Originally Posted by Sean

Justin, are you the one who bid up that T206 Home Run Baker card to $6k?

Because if so,you may be getting some of those opportunities that you mentioned.

And also, welcome to the board.

but i will also say that i wasnt the only one that wanted the card... i was just willing to pay a little more than the under bidder

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by kickitup

Here I am, the "real possible buyer".... If you actually have some "high grade, nicely centered cards", feel free to contact me with scans and prices and I will evaluate the opportunity. If not, please refrain from attempting to act like blowhard on some online forum.

I won these auctions because I wanted them more than anyone else. I don't shill, I buy cards at prices that I feel are appropriate, whether you do or not. I have collected for years and purchased cards from multiple sources including ebay, Memory Lane, Heritage, Greg Bussineau. I have bid at Mile High and SCP as well.

If any of you have a problem with the way I bid or who I choose to bid with, too bad. I deal with people I trust and Brent/PWCC Auctions is one of them.

My email is jcornett@liquidity-partners.com.

** BTW, the reason my account has bid retractions was over a heavy disagreement with a seller I was bidding with. My confidence in their service was affected so I canceled my bids with them to protect myself. The seller later apologized, and I later won all the cards that I bid on in which the bids were retracted.

Hello Justin. Well, nobody's called you out yet so I'll be the first. 18 bid retractions in 6 months? So your saying all with one seller? and none with PWCC?

An issue that has been raised in this thread is bidding at the top end of an auction to find the underbidders max bid; then retracting to expose the underbidder as the winner. -***o ebay username has been exposed as someone doing this multiple times, but NOT on PWCC auctions (just to be clear). I'm assuming this is not the type of retraction you have?

I also do a majority of my bidding with PWCC, and Brent is aware of my disgust with retractors. I'm confident he has a sound policy to address these issues with e-bay's support.

[kickitup]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Hello Justin. Well, nobody's called you out yet so I'll be the first. 18 bid retractions in 6 months? So your saying all with one seller? and none with PWCC?

An issue that has been raised in this thread is bidding at the top end of an auction to find the underbidders max bid; then retracting to expose the underbidder as the winner. -***o ebay username has been exposed as someone doing this multiple times, but NOT on PWCC auctions (just to be clear). I'm assuming this is not the type of retraction you have?

I also do a majority of my bidding with PWCC, and Brent is aware of my disgust with retractors. I'm confident he has a sound policy to address these issues with e-bay's support.

I had one retraction with the PSA 8 53 mantle at Pwcc a few months ago where I made a mistake and retracted the bid. I then came in and rebid correctly like an appropriate person should do.

The other retractions were with two sellers specifically, one had 15 and one had 2. The one where I retracted 15 bids I ended up winning all the auctions on some 86 fleer psa10s. The user for the other two retractions were because I bid on the items and didn't pay attention to who the seller was. The seller had screwed me over on a deal and I refuse to do business with him.

I can definitely see the benefit in retractions to discover max bids, but it does not at all preclude you from losing to someone using a snipping service.

There are actually some honest people out there that retract for reasons other than intentional manipulation. Whether it be inexperience or ignorance, it needs to be policed and watched, but if you guys don't want someone to see your max bid, don't put one in. Wait till the end and use your snipping services. Don't try to blame retractors, look in the mirror and blame yourself.

Have a great evening.

[kickitup]

Lastly, if the prices I paid were so crazy high for everything, why haven't multiple high quality home run baker t206 cards showed up on eBay ? Why haven't any more high quality PSA green Cobb's surfaced yet as available? Why haven't all those folks with the top notch PSA 8 mantles put them up for auction if these prices really are crazy??

I can tell you why... Because people don't want to sell. Until they do, prices will keep going up... It amazes me that people don't understand that, but that's fine by me because I get to enjoy these cards and make money at the same time while some folks that like to complain and conspire on message boards will be left with nothing but their incorrect assumptions about guys like me.

Welcome to America !

[HRBAKER]

Or blame ebay for creating (and continuing to refine) a playground for the ill-intentioned.
Please note: this is a general observation.

[swarmee]

"sniping" services with one p. Snipping is not a service I'm interested in.