Mantle Avalanche

[Exhibitman]

The frequency of these cards coming to market should not be surprising; they are not rare. 1952 T Mantle PSA pop 1,293 [117 of which are 7 or better, unqualified]. For contrast: PSA T206 Wagner pop 33 plus 2 qualified cards. Put another way, there are three times as many slabbed PSA 7 or better Mantles than there are Wagners in any grade. And yes, I realize there are some resubs in the PSA list but the overall point remains.

[1952boyntoncollector]

the RC is a waterfront property on the intercoastal...the 1953 ..if its waterfront its on a canal..maybe navigable ..maybe not...after that I don't really see the rest of the mantles getting that same type of attention...but maybe at the psa 8 level....basically a POP thing....

unfortunately many of my waterfront cards are just on a drainage ditches

[HRBAKER]

Is the '52 a RC?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Is the '52 a RC?

According to SGC it is, for some reason.

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

According to SGC it is, for some reason.

I've always thought the 52T rookie designation was weird. The 51 Bowman is a 10x better looking card anyway.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

I've always thought the 52T rookie designation was weird. The 51 Bowman is a 10x better looking card anyway.

Topps is the biggest and most prolific card company ever. The '52 Topps Mantle is iconic and his FTC (First Topps Card). These analogies remind me of the T206 Wags. Most non collectors think it's his rarest card. It's nowhere close but it is his most known and iconic hence the price. Same as the '52 Mick.

Personally I like his '51 Bowman as much as the '52 Topps.

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by Leon

Topps is the biggest and most prolific card company ever. The '52 Topps Mantle is iconic and his FTC (First Topps Card). These analogies remind me of the T206 Wags. Most non collectors think it's his rarest card. It's nowhere close but it is his most known and iconic hence the price. Same as the '52 Mick.

Personally I like his '51 Bowman as much as the '52 Topps.

I get the whole Topps mystique, it's just weird a lot of people think the 52T is Mantle's rookie. Interestingly though, that doesn't seem to be the case with Mays. I think you're on to something with an FTC designation though. That makes the most sense to me.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

I've always thought the 52T rookie designation was weird. The 51 Bowman is a 10x better looking card anyway.

It's not just weird, it's flat out wrong. A second year card is not a rookie. But SGC labels it a rookie.

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

I've always thought the 52T rookie designation was weird. The 51 Bowman is a 10x better looking card anyway.

Personally I like Mantle's '52B more than the '52T as well, maybe its only cuz I can afford it

[Delray Vintage]

I am surprised but can't say shocked that a PSA 6 is at 82,000 at Goodwin auction already. I know it is a beautiful card but has the market gone crazy? Has Mickey become the darling of every Wall Street investor? Markets make the price but can anyone say bubble.

[Sophiedog]

There are 3 1952 Mantle PSA 10's out there. Wonder what one of them would bring. 3 Million?

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

According to SGC it is, for some reason.

Well that settles it.

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

the RC is a waterfront property on the intercoastal...the 1953 ..if its waterfront its on a canal..maybe navigable ..maybe not...after that I don't really see the rest of the mantles getting that same type of attention...but maybe at the psa 8 level....basically a POP thing....

unfortunately many of my waterfront cards are just on a drainage ditches

Same type of attention? No. However it's Mantle and he's arguably a top 5-10 player collected. If his cards ( all years) don't do well in the future, that doesn't bode well for the hobby in general. I'm reminded often that scarcity/rarity almost always takes a backseat to popularity and they don't come much more popular that the Mick

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Stonepony

Same type of attention? No. However it's Mantle and he's arguably a top 5-10 player collected. If his cards ( all years) don't do well in the future, that doesn't bode well for the hobby in general. I'm reminded often that scarcity/rarity almost always takes a backseat to popularity and they don't come much more popular that the Mick

i agree with some of what you said...mantle cards do have a premium versus regular cards and its definitely about popularity which impacts scarcity or not...lots of cards are very very rare but no one wants them so theres no value there...

but yeah when a hobby goes down the main cards keep their value and the rest goes in the tank..so that is a possibility..like i said before..even in the housing crisis years ago the waterfront properties were still going strong..people threw their money on the 'safe' stuff... houses across the street inland were getting crushed even though they were in the same neighborhood, sometimes just across the street...i have seen mantles psa 8s do well in later years..so they still doing well...but i judge a waterfront property/card a few ways:

1. could there be an exponential rise in price just due to centering (cards going for what was previously though to be 2 or 3 grades higher etc) Call it the pretty picture test..like the ty cobb psa 5.5 that sold today

2. do even bad condition cards cost more than the average person puts in their collection (mantle psa 2s in late years for example can be had for very cheap) A 1952 Topps psa 1 mantle still costs a TTON

3. There are more conditions as well but giving you a gist on what i think...i could be wrong with my whole line of thought..but just giving you what i mean by waterfront properties..