Comments and thoughts needed re: PSA grading

[Leon]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Really, That is a serious allegation on you part.

It is and per the rules has garnered his name under his user id....per the rules.

It is my belief that folks cracking cards don't usually work on them between cracking them out. My guess is they work on them before they start trying to get them in holders. Buy big bordered cards....

[Rookiemonster]

Hey I really didn't mean much by it you asked for a option this seems like the most logical unless they left your sight between cracking them open . Or PSA is just making things up as they go . These are the only two real senarios . Either one would not surprise me . Sorry if I offended you in any way

[swarmee]

Well, people who trim cards don't normally post on industry chat boards when they doctor cards and get caught. These cards were posted on the PSA chat boards before being removed from their cases and with the grades they already had and being the best of their grades in his collection, likely deserved bumps.

It is completely feasible that originally the tolerance accepted from PSA to grade a card changed over time, and that these cards ARE short, despite already being holdered. You will see a lot of discussion the the 1975 Topps Mini thread discussing all the "short" cards that were holdered, and how they wouldn't be graded now, despite factory cuts.

Welcome to the board; don't joke about fraud like that. ;-)

[Sidepocket]

These cards weren't trimmed. My concern, as echoed by many PM's I received on the PSA message board, is what in the world PSA is doing? To spend $15 per card to get previously graded, gorgeous cards back as MIN SIZE, just to play some game with PSA and keep resubmitting til they pass inspection, is horrible service. And I think a recent development. A few years ago I cracked a PSA 7 Montana rookie, resubbed it, and it came back a 9. That was about a $600 resub. I know grading is subjective, and a very sharp 7 (which the Montana was) can have very minor differences from a 9, but this whole MIN SIZE thing reeks of bad quality control and/or review procedures. Or, even worse, a process to bump profits. BTW, I subbed these under the 15 free subs with a membership renewal, so there is no charge to refund. If they don't give me vouchers, then that's a waste of about $65 to get a "try again another day, and don't forget to pay us again" result.