Eddie Plank ☆ Ebay

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

You could buy a 1795 gold eagle, just a few hundred total known, in mint state condition, and still have enough left over for a small house, for the price that PSA 8 Mantle is going for.

right but the mantle could be a million dollar card in 8 years...it did go from 60k to 400k in 10 years afterall...how that gold eagle doing during that time..

[Peter_Spaeth]

At 425,000, the bidding increment is still 100 dollars.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

At 425,000, the bidding increment is still 100 dollars.

and still only 100 ebay bucks...but don't need 5x bucks to get 100 at least..

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right but the mantle could be a million dollar card in 8 years...it did go from 60k to 400k in 10 years afterall...how that gold eagle doing during that time..

That wasn't really my point though. A 1795 Eagle is America's first gold coin, historically significant, 200+ years old, made of gold, and much rarer than a 52 Mantle. A 52 Mantle is ultimately just a picture of some guy on a piece of cardboard.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

That wasn't really my point though. A 1795 Eagle is America's first gold coin, historically significant, 200+ years old, made of gold, and much rarer than a 52 Mantle. A 52 Mantle is ultimately just a picture of some guy on a piece of cardboard.

right and I had thread about gold being better than cards as well..more useful etc......you were talking having money left over to buy a house....there may be a lot more money left over to buy a much bigger house if buy the mantle and sell it 10 years from now etc..

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

... ultimately just a picture of some guy on a piece of cardboard.

You realize that you're on a message board that specializes in pictures of guys on pieces of cardboard, right?

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

You realize that you're on a message board that specializes in pictures of guys on pieces of cardboard, right?

Well, yeah. I'm just suggesting that there might be other things more significant to spend half a million dollars on than a picture of Mickey Mantle.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

Well, yeah. I'm just suggesting that there might be other things more significant to spend half a million dollars on than a picture of Mickey Mantle.

500K to that buyer may be like 1k to you or I....it all the same thing..i know lots of non collectors who would say there may things more significant to buy other than a baseball picture even for 40 bucks...

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

500K to that buyer may be like 1k to you or I....it all the same thing..i know lots of non collectors who would say there may things more significant to buy other than a baseball picture even for 40 bucks...

It's not really the same as far as the point I was making. It wasn't about relative wealth. My point was about the significance of a 52 Mantle.

Using the coin example, for $40, I can buy some cards or I can buy some coins. None of the coins in the $40 range are going to be significant historical artifacts. They're going to be common just like the cards.

But for $500,000, I could possibly buy any number of coins with great historical significance, that far outweighs a 52 Mantle. I could buy a Roman Sestertius commemorating the opening of the Colosseum in 80 A.D. for instance.

Maybe a 52 Mantle is worth $500,000 to some people but I have a different perspective.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

It's not really the same as far as the point I was making. It wasn't about relative wealth. My point was about the significance of a 52 Mantle.

Using the coin example, for $40, I can buy some cards or I can buy some coins. None of the coins in the $40 range are going to be significant historical artifacts. They're going to be common just like the cards.

But for $500,000, I could possibly buy any number of coins with great historical significance, that far outweighs a 52 Mantle. I could buy a Roman Sestertius commemorating the opening of the Colosseum in 80 A.D. for instance.

Maybe a 52 Mantle is worth $500,000 to some people but I have a different perspective.

For a half million you could get a pretty respectable work of art as well.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

Well, yeah. I'm just suggesting that there might be other things more significant to spend half a million dollars on than a picture of Mickey Mantle.

+1
I would much rather have a picture of Babe Ruth.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

Well, yeah. I'm just suggesting that there might be other things more significant to spend half a million dollars on than a picture of Mickey Mantle.

They aren't buying the picture of Mantle, they are buying the PSA flip.

[HRBAKER]

There's probably more than a bit of truth in that Peter.

[Jewish-collector]

$500,000 to these bidders is probably just pocket change to them.

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

They aren't buying the picture of Mantle, they are buying the PSA flip.

Excellent point.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

They aren't buying the picture of Mantle, they are buying the PSA flip.

right cause you sell the holder not the card......until i ever see a post on ebay that says 'bad card for the grade' or 'techinal aspects of the card are much worse than the grade'


Though like when i see a seller say 'good card for the grade' then i assume any of his other postings are not good for the grade....just like a realtor or baseball cards seller saying 'priced to sell'...to me than means every other listing from that seller or realtor that doesnt say that is 'priced not to sell' when they are the ones using that priced to sell lingo...

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right cause you sell the holder not the card......until i ever see a post on ebay that says 'bad card for the grade' or 'techinal aspects of the card are much worse than the grade'


Though like when i see a seller say 'good card for the grade' then i assume any of his other postings are not good for the grade....just like a realtor or baseball cards seller saying 'priced to sell'...to me than means every other listing from that seller or realtor that doesnt say that is 'priced not to sell' when they are the ones using that priced to sell lingo...

Huh?

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by PolarBear

That wasn't really my point though. A 1795 Eagle is America's first gold coin, historically significant, 200+ years old, made of gold, and much rarer than a 52 Mantle. A 52 Mantle is ultimately just a picture of some guy on a piece of cardboard.

The '52 Topps Mantle is a card that connects you to the player and takes you back to the time, a time when rooting for the Yankees was like rooting for U.S. Steel, and the Mick was overflowing with the indominatable vigor of youth, chomping at the bit to perform wondrous feats (such as winning 12 pennants and 7 World Series in the course of his first 14 years in the league)! It's a slice of both the time and his life, just as the 1795 coin is a slice of early America. Your last statement is the same as saying that the 1795 $10 gold piece is just a piece of metal dug out of some rock or stream and stamped into a circle under pressure a long time ago. That is simply not the way collectors view Americana. For a baseball lover, one who lives and breathes its history, the Mantle is far more than likely the more significant item of the two.

Best regards,

Larry

[Leon]

+1 Collectors have more passion when they connect with something.

Originally Posted by ls7plus

The '52 Topps Mantle is a card that connects you to the player and takes you back to the time, a time when rooting for the Yankees was like rooting for U.S. Steel, and the Mick was overflowing with the indominatable vigor of youth, chomping at the bit to perform wondrous feats (such as winning 12 pennants and 7 World Series in the course of his first 14 years in the league)! It's a slice of both the time and his life, just as the 1795 coin is a slice of early America. Your last statement is the same as saying that the 1795 $10 gold piece is just a piece of metal dug out of some rock or stream and stamped into a circle under pressure a long time ago. That is simply not the way collectors view Americana. For a baseball lover, one who lives and breathes its history, the Mantle is far more than likely the more significant item of the two.

Best regards,

Larry

[clydepepper]

Anyone for floating the rumor that this card appears to be trimmed?


.
.

[Joshchisox08]

I'm currently winning Gettysburg Eddie =)

[clydepepper]

Josh- since you have THAT much money, please send me a PM so I can give you my mailing address for any extra $100 bills you have lying around.


.
.

[irishdenny]

So is it Fair ta say that Players like Harper, Trout, Goldschmidt & the Likes will be all the Rage 20-40 years from now!
The New Money will have ta Collect someone... RiGHT!?

Maybe that's why the new shinny Rookie's are goin fir crazy money even before this boys even touch the Major's...

Ohhh and I'm not one who believes that the Mantles are gonna do a nose dive when us baby boomers die off... Sure they'll be a baseline, but a nosedive is a much different theory.

[nsaddict]

Anyone notice a couple of bid retractions on the Plank? Same bidder is leading on the Mantle, perhaps all in on the Mick or? Has about 30 bids on that auction. Can never understand why someone needs to bid 30/40 times on one lot?

[Peter_Spaeth]

The timing of the two bids, and retractions, is odd.

Member Id: -***o( 1271Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Retracted: US $62,000.00
Bid: Nov-04-15 21:53:00 PST
Retracted: Nov-04-15 21:54:20 PST
Member Id: -***o( 1271Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999) Retracted: US $60,349.00
Bid: Nov-04-15 21:54:39 PST
Retracted: Nov-05-15 12:32:57 PST

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right but the mantle could be a million dollar card in 8 years...it did go from 60k to 400k in 10 years afterall...how that gold eagle doing during that time..

It takes only a couple of guys with big egos and wallets to drive up the Mantles. IMO very hard to tell if it will hold the new price levels, much less continue to rise.

[TanksAndSpartans]

Are there any special bidding rules? Do you have to be pre-approved or anything? I think that Superman comic had some rules like that. With 7 days left, I'm tempted to just throw out a bid, but I think I'll refrain

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It takes only a couple of guys with big egos and wallets to drive up the Mantles. IMO very hard to tell if it will hold the new price levels, much less continue to rise.

right but they were saying that years ago when it was approaching 100k that it wouldn't maintain that level...plus maybe they lose out on one or two of these types of buys and only make out once...but if bought the mantle 10 years ago you are making 350k and if the card went to zero after buying it 10 years ago you are losing 60k so could lose 5 times and be right once and still make money....if you have that bankroll

...I would hope the guys that spend 400k have some type of business background..who knows.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

right but the mantle could be a million dollar card in 8 years...it did go from 60k to 400k in 10 years afterall...how that gold eagle doing during that time..

That's about 19% compounded annually, which is a figure a lot of quality collectibles have reached or surpassed, but they usually slow down in their rate of appreciation by the time they reach that level or before. Lots and lots of the big boys want that card in that condition and centered!

All the best guys,

Larry