Another EBay Fraud Listings

[ezez420]

So you guys werent aware of the fake round flips? This has been happening for a few years now. This looks like exactly what the guy down on West coast/Mexico was doing that has been talked about in past.

It is clear that these are two different cards in two different holders with same serial number, right?



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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ezez420

So you guys werent aware of the fake round flips? This has been happening for a few years now. This looks like exactly what the guy down on West coast/Mexico was doing that has been talked about in past.

It is clear that these are two different cards in two different holders with same serial number, right?



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Yeah something is wrong, but it isn't the rounded flip per se.
https://forums.collectors.com/messag...hreadid=846031

I don't think I have seen a fake with an actual hologram holder which is a decade old or more.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yeah something is wrong, but it isn't the rounded flip per se.
https://forums.collectors.com/messag...hreadid=846031

I don't think I have seen a fake with an actual hologram holder which is a decade old or more.

For what its worth, this his response when I asked where he got the card.....

I purchased from a close friend I guarantee 100% authentic if I need to add
those details to the listing I will

-xbizus

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by ezez420

So you guys werent aware of the fake round flips? This has been happening for a few years now. This looks like exactly what the guy down on West coast/Mexico was doing that has been talked about in past.

It is clear that these are two different cards in two different holders with same serial number, right?



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plus the old sale had the newer flip version .....what I would be worried about is if the fake had the newer version with the grade number on the second line....this card is the opposite..

[Peter_Spaeth]

It could just be the scan but the one Ed says is real has some major holder frosting (I think) and looks overgraded perhaps.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It could just be the scan but the one Ed says is real has some major holder frosting (I think) and looks overgraded perhaps.

Buying/selling the ebay id is really all you need to know..

also labeled #144 and not #53 in the listing...who would make that mistake on a card in the 1000s... where #53 is the more valuable card..

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Buying/selling the ebay id is really all you need to know..

Free enterprise I guess. Kinda defeats the point of feedback though.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Free enterprise I guess. Kinda defeats the point of feedback though.

and another reason to buy PWCC and Probstein etc...feedback real etc.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Buying/selling the ebay id is really all you need to know..

I find it very disturbing that ebay ID's can be bought/sold.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Free enterprise I guess. Kinda defeats the point of feedback though.

At least you have to make a transaction now to get/receive feedback. Remember the early days when you could just have friends leave feedback with out any transaction actually taking place.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Ben yeah but after all the people I knew left me feedback I was only up to 5 or so.

[Stonepony]

From what I can make out , it looks like same card ( spot on mid chest, centering etc) but different ( ? fake) holder. Perplexing. Somethings very wrong without doubt. Including listing it as #144