51 mantle

[bobbyw8469]

Great post above me! As far as sending that Mantle in - DON'T DO IT! Due to the 'perceived' value, you have to send it in under a more pricey service ($25-$50). The card is an obvious fake. You don't even have a 5% chance of it being real. You have a ZERO percent chance of it being real. Take the money you were going to spend to get it graded and buy a book on how to spot fake cards. I got a couple good ones at home, but the name escapes me at the moment. I can give you the titles later if interested.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Great post above me! As far as sending that Mantle in - DON'T DO IT! Due to the 'perceived' value, you have to send it in under a more pricey service ($25-$50). The card is an obvious fake. You don't even have a 5% chance of it being real. You have a ZERO percent chance of it being real. Take the money you were going to spend to get it graded and buy a book on how to spot fake cards. I got a couple good ones at home, but the name escapes me at the moment. I can give you the titles later if interested.

Fellow member Bob Lemke has a decent book on detecting fake cards it is called Sportscard Counterfeit Detector.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Fellow member Bob Lemke has a decent book on detecting fake cards it is called Sportscard Counterfeit Detector.

I think that is one of the ones I have! That IS a great book! It helped me greatly on those pesky 1986 Fleer Basketball cards that were always giving me trouble.

[jackson84]

Im not the seller. I appreciate everyones feedback. Im still waiting on the card in the mail and when i receive it i will have a better feel and look at it. I will still send it in to be graded and let everyone know if they are right or wrong.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by jackson84

Im not the seller. I appreciate everyones feedback. Im still waiting on the card in the mail and when i receive it i will have a better feel and look at it. I will still send it in to be graded and let everyone know if they are right or wrong.

Why are you going against everyone's advice?

[PolarBear]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by jackson84

Im not the seller. I appreciate everyones feedback. Im still waiting on the card in the mail and when i receive it i will have a better feel and look at it. I will still send it in to be graded and let everyone know if they are right or wrong.

Well....like PT Barnum said.....

[Leon]

To be perfectly clear there is 0.00% chance it is real. But if you put REPRINT on the submission a TPG might take your money and label it a reprint for you.

[jackson84]

I had already made the purchase before i posted here. Not that i want to go against advice but i had already paid for it so figured id check it out and hope for the best

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by jackson84

Im not the seller. I appreciate everyones feedback. Im still waiting on the card in the mail and when i receive it i will have a better feel and look at it. I will still send it in to be graded and let everyone know if they are right or wrong.

If you want it to pass I would suggest Global Authority/GAI or whatever it is called now. None of the big 3 will grade that. You can buy 51 Bowman Mantles and several others off etsy for $3.95 each just like the one pictured in post #1.

[FourStrikes]

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[asphaltman]

Originally Posted by jackson84

I had already made the purchase before i posted here. Not that i want to go against advice but i had already paid for it so figured id check it out and hope for the best

The point is you can just send it back to the seller and just be out your return shipping costs. Makes zero cents to throw another $75 into this card to get it graded, return shpping to you, etc.

There is no "best" to hope for with that card.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by asphaltman

The point is you can just send it back to the seller and just be out your return shipping costs. Makes zero cents to throw another $75 into this card to get it graded, return shpping to you, etc.

There is no "best" to hope for with that card.

As the seller does not accept returns and clearly stated they are selling it as a reprint it might be hard to win that dispute.

These scammers know how to get around that when you do it all the time.

He's taking a 50 cent reprint, destroying it and making 47 bucks. Sounds like a hell of a racket. If you could make 94 times your investment or more on each card, you would have to know the in's and out's of Ebay. Oh...and be soulless.

[1880nonsports]

for sure even it would say "neigh". Despite the seller's verbiage that no returns are accepted - file a claim - send it back with tracking when prompted - nearly 100% you will get a refund. Seen it happen many times.

Your card is not a real '51 Mantle (place PERIOD here)

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by JustinD

As the seller does not accept returns and clearly stated they are selling it as a reprint it might be hard to win that dispute.

Easy return. Seller listed it as a 1951 reprint. It was not from 1951, hence "not as described".

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by asphaltman

The point is you can just send it back to the seller and just be out your return shipping costs. Makes zero cents to throw another $75 into this card to get it graded, return shpping to you, etc.

There is no "best" to hope for with that card.

Agreed. You could declare the value of this card to be what you paid for it and spend $15-20 getting it graded. But by the time you get it back you won't be able to return it, so you'll be out 70 bucks. Not the most expensive lesson but definitely a waste of money.

Why you refuse to listen to many vintage card experts, including the owner of this forum is beyond me. You asked for advice, got it, and have chosen to ignore it. If nothing else this helps explain why all of these types of reprints continue to sell on ebay.

[begsu1013]

put the shovel away.

instead of digging yourself out and only finding yourself deeper, here's a cheaper method. buy a $5 black light on ebay. when the card glows under the light you know instantly that you've wasted $47, but saved $58 in grading fees, shipping and it's hard not to smirk when saying this next word.....insurance!

but if the tree is healthy and in full bloom in the back yard, fedex it custom critical w/ $50K declared value and be sure to go w/ the walk thru service level.