battlefield0516 t206 on ebay

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by gs1968

Have bought from this seller many times most cards are 2 grades below description and bid accordingly. Just bought t206 hummel listed as nearmint got card full 1/16 inch short top to bottom returned item 4 days after sellers receipt of card still no refund but card relisted as you guessed it...near mint.no more for me I am done too many sellers out there.

They have been doing this for years. They prey on people hoping they hit a 'raw' card gold mine with their awesome looking vintage, ungraded cards. I believe they crack out mid grade cards that look nice for the grade for some of their wares. I also believe they crack out SGC "A" cards that look fantastic and sell them as raw, unaltered cards. They seem to have no shortage of buyers, and they are sitting on an Ebay gold mine, ethics be damned.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

They have been doing this for years. They prey on people hoping they hit a 'raw' card gold mine with their awesome looking vintage, ungraded cards. I believe they crack out mid grade cards that look nice for the grade for some of their wares. I also believe they crack out SGC "A" cards that look fantastic and sell them as raw, unaltered cards. They seem to have no shortage of buyers, and they are sitting on an Ebay gold mine, ethics be damned.

That pretty much sums it up. They don't ask any questions about returns since they know the cards are altered. The one card I purchased was relisted before I had even gotten it back from PSA. With the same description of NM card, guaranteed authentic and unaltered.

I'm no lawyer, but shouldn't it be a crime to sell a $1,000 + card you know is altered yet insist it not? Or any card for that matter?

[Zact]

Bump

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

That pretty much sums it up. They don't ask any questions about returns since they know the cards are altered. The one card I purchased was relisted before I had even gotten it back from PSA. With the same description of NM card, guaranteed authentic and unaltered.

I'm no lawyer, but shouldn't it be a crime to sell a $1,000 + card you know is altered yet insist it not? Or any card for that matter?

Just imagine if there were no grading companies how many times a card would be returned on a high dollar card on a dispute on the term 'near mint'

[Luke]

So, she just won the trimmed Old Mill Cy Young from PWCC, popped it out, photo-shopped it, and re-listed:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...oAAOSwPCVX7~Yt

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...sAAOSwn7JYCaXg

[PhillipAbbott79]

I am not sure I see a photo shop job, but I definitely think removing it from the holder where it was clearly labeled as altered and not disclosing that is a really shitty move.

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

I am not sure I see a photo shop job, but I definitely think removing it from the holder where it was clearly labeled as altered and not disclosing that is a really shitty move.

They didn't just hide that fact. They explicitly lie, saying its unaltered ...
"Up for auction is a 1909-11 T206 Cy Young (Glove Shows) #525 vintage baseball card. This card has an Old Mill Back. This card is in wonderful condition! It is 100% authentic and unaltered! ..."

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

I am not sure I see a photo shop job, but I definitely think removing it from the holder where it was clearly labeled as altered and not disclosing that is a really shitty move.

That's what brings the bucks. Money has no ethics. Battlefield has been doing this for years. That is why I'm always so leery about selling my own personal SGC "A" cards on Ebay.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

I am not sure I see a photo shop job, but I definitely think removing it from the holder where it was clearly labeled as altered and not disclosing that is a really shitty move.

I don't see the black marks under "Assortment" nor the red mark left of "Cigarettes" (outside the frame) on battlefield's scan as I do on the original PWCC one.

[Batpig]

I wonder if Brent would have any pull getting this POS off of eBay.

[Leon]

I am going to see if I can get the authorities interested in this one. It's just wrong....

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

So, she just won the trimmed Old Mill Cy Young from PWCC, popped it out, photo-shopped it, and re-listed:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...oAAOSwPCVX7~Yt

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...sAAOSwn7JYCaXg

[Bretsky]

How is this person still allowed to sell on Ebay? I remember being scammed by him or her a year ago on a high end 55 All American card that was definitely not in the picture.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Bretsky

How is this person still allowed to sell on Ebay? I remember being scammed by him or her a year ago on a high end 55 All American card that was definitely not in the picture.

$$$$$ for Ebay, that is why


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[Pat R]

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

So, she just won the trimmed Old Mill Cy Young from PWCC, popped it out, photo-shopped it, and re-listed:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...oAAOSwPCVX7~Yt

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...sAAOSwn7JYCaXg

Well it looks like the buyer sent it back and now it's re-listed again.http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...AAAOSwo4pYNn5A

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Well it looks like the buyer sent it back and now it's re-listed again.http://www.ebay.com/itm/CY-YOUNG-GLO...AAAOSwo4pYNn5A

the collecting world for that type of card is pretty small and you would think everyone already has seen that card by now. I not sure why people just dont bid a psa 1/authentic raw price on it especially when seeing the negative ebay comments.

It is fun to see some of the 'shocked' buyer comments who think they bought a legit $1000 or whatever card and believe they are getting a card worth 1000s more....

Negative feedback rating CARD IMAGE WAS ALTERED, IGNORED EMAILS, TOOK 2 WEEKS FOR REFUND, STAY AWAY!!!!!! Buyer: t***y ( 1162Red star icon for feedback score in between 1,000 to 4,999)
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Reply by battlefield0516 (Aug-21-16 19:20):
You & others spreading these lies can expect a slander lawsuit to be filed soon!

SANDY KOUFAX 1955 TOPPS #123 - RC - DODGERS - NRMINT-MINT+ BREATHTAKING!!! (#142067923901)



Looking forward to that slander lawsuit..


I guess love is a battlefield.

[PhillipAbbott79]

The low dollar sales mask the high dollar fraud listings from a percentage perspective.

I can think of one way to stop the problem. If everyone ponies up 2 or 3 bucks and wins the low dollar cards and then leaves a negative feed back his percentage would drop, and he would lose a lot of credibility with Ebay.

Sometimes the only way to fight problems is with numbers. I would be in if we want to get a group of people together to help solve the problem.