1974 topps psa mike schmidt psa 10

[bnorth]

Because he is the greatest player ever. PSA is the most amazing company ever and they say the card is perfect. Plus it was auctioned off by a very reputable company that does not allow any wrongdoing in their auctions. So with all that going for it how couldn't a $10 card bring $7600.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Because he is the greatest player ever. PSA is the most amazing company ever and they say the card is perfect. Plus it was auctioned off by a very reputable company that does not allow any wrongdoing in their auctions. So with all that going for it how couldn't a $10 card bring $7600.

There are PSA 10 HOF collectors out there...not sure if it was bidding war or not but look at the 1975 Yount and Brett etc in PSA 10..

Say what you want but PWCC is better to buy from than nobodys..nobodys are more likely to shill The nobody can make 2 accounts and buy the card from the other then cancel the purchase. The 1000s of poeple that consign to pwcc dont have that relationship with PWCC. If you win your own card with PWCC its not going to be canceled you will end up costing you 10-15%...but a nobody gets charged zero.......i worry more about non auction houses on ebay then the probsteins of the world

[jthorst75]

I guess the question is, why $30 for standard shipping? Crazy...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Because he is the greatest player ever. PSA is the most amazing company ever and they say the card is perfect. Plus it was auctioned off by a very reputable company that does not allow any wrongdoing in their auctions. So with all that going for it how couldn't a $10 card bring $7600.

man give me all of your mint 1974 schmidts for 10 dollar a piece since thats all they are worth

[MattyC]

74 Schmidt is a very big card for collectors of that era. It is his first solo card, his RC having been a multi-face. What's more, it is notoriously condition sensitive; few example have standout eye appeal due to tilt and various PD issues.

From the demand end, you have a HOF player with a passionate fan base, set builders for whom it is a key card in the 74T set, and single card collectors like myself for example, all of whom would love a great example. The Registry competition among both Schmidt and 74T collectors alone would be sufficient to drive up the price.

That said, due to the PD on this particular card, I would never agree with the 10 designation it was given. I would bet that particular card comes back in a lower grade 9 of 10 times it is submitted raw-- even though 10s by definition do allow for a small print defect that does not detract from eye appeal. I think the PD in this case does affect the appeal, so it is admittedly a subjective call. For me, I love the 74 Schmidt card, but this would have been a case IMO of buying the sticker.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by MattyC

74 Schmidt is a very big card for collectors of that era. It is his first solo card, his RC having been a multi-face. What's more, it is notoriously condition sensitive; few example have standout eye appeal due to tilt and various PD issues.

From the demand end, you have a HOF player with a passionate fan base, set builders for whom it is a key card in the 74T set, and single card collectors like myself for example, all of whom would love a great example. The Registry competition among both Schmidt and 74T collectors alone would be sufficient to drive up the price.

That said, due to the PD on this particular card, I would never agree with the 10 designation it was given. I would bet that particular card comes back in a lower grade 9 of 10 times it is submitted raw-- even though 10s by definition do allow for a small print defect that does not detract from eye appeal. I think the PD in this case does affect the appeal, so it is admittedly a subjective call. For me, I love the 74 Schmidt card, but this would have been a case IMO of buying the sticker.

You can say buy the card not the holder but if you ended up having this card 3 months from now and you got it for free...you wouldnt sell it to me for $3000 since its really a PSA 9 in your opinion.....basically everyone says buy the card not the holder...but nobody sells the card, not the holder.....everyone sells the holder not the card......

Thus my new expression is Sell the Holder not the card, until i see nobody doing that..

[MattyC]

I wouldn't ever end up with a card that doesn't match or exceed the grade because I don't buy ugly cards for my collection. I'd buy a high end 10 that was truly perfect and fit the grade, and then sell it faster and for a much bigger number than the low end 10 would fetch, were that my game.

And yes, if you buy the card you will always do well. It can bump or command a premium over its grade. So one can sell the card, though I do agree 100% the holder is sold all the time as well, even when the card inside doesn't match up with the holder. If you want to just buy stickers, go for yours. Long as a collector is happy with their card.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I wouldn't ever end up with a card that doesn't match or exceed the grade because I don't buy ugly cards for my collection. And I wouldn't be selling it for any number because I wouldn't buy it.

I'd buy a high end 10 that was truly perfect and fit the grade, and then sell it faster and for a much bigger number than the low end 10 would fetch, were that my game.

And yes, if you buy the card you will always do well. It can bump or command a premium over its grade. So one can sell the card, though I do agree 100% the holder is sold all the time as well, even when the card inside doesn't match up with the holder. If you want to just buy stickers, go for yours. Long as a collector is happy with their card.

In my example you got the card for free....so you could have that in your collecton...and i am saying sell the holder not the card., i am not buying stickers...like you said...100% of the time the sticker is sold not the card....

sell the holder not the card....

You could always get that PSA 10 regarded to a PSA 7..now its a pretty card for the grade no longer an ugly card.....

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

You could always get that PSA 10 regarded to a PSA 7..now its a pretty card for the grade no longer an ugly card.....

Funny you say that because I've actually done that myself. Last year I had a gorgeous PSA 8 Michael Jordan RC. Then under light I saw a very, very mild crease. Probably more like a warp it would be called. It was so slight it got by the graders. I could have kept it in the 8 holder and sold it for more than I paid. Instead I had them regrade it down to a 4, and it may now be the nicest looking MJ RC south of an 8 around, LOL!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I wouldn't ever end up with a card that doesn't match or exceed the grade because I don't buy ugly cards for my collection. I'd buy a high end 10 that was truly perfect and fit the grade, and then sell it faster and for a much bigger number than the low end 10 would fetch, were that my game.

And yes, if you buy the card you will always do well. It can bump or command a premium over its grade. So one can sell the card, though I do agree 100% the holder is sold all the time as well, even when the card inside doesn't match up with the holder. If you want to just buy stickers, go for yours. Long as a collector is happy with their card.

A low end 10? ?? Seriously? The whole thing has reached a point of absurdity if we are talking about high end and low end 10s.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

A low end 10? ?? Seriously? The whole thing has reached a point of absurdity if we are talking about high end and low end 10s.

haha that was true but it was more absurd on dealers saying their card was mint or near mint...the disparity between the different dealers assessment of what near mint was very broad...

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

A low end 10? ?? Seriously? The whole thing has reached a point of absurdity if we are talking about high end and low end 10s.

A big +1 there, Pete. The guys that buy these things, IMHO, might as well be paying for them with beans--what they're laying out in $$$ is to them what $35 bucks would be to most, or at least a lot of us. They just have it in their heads that they want (or deserve) the very best, and money is the least of their worries. As I've said before, for what you actually get for your money, a nice "8" or "8.5" should be at least a fifth or sixth of the price of a gem mint "10," and certainly not hundreds of times the amount of the latter. Leon said it though--we all collect in different ways. I'd never pay that for a '74 Schmidt (although he is the greatest 3rd baseman of all time) when I just paid a tad over $4,000 for one of the total of three graded 1939 V351 Ted Williams rookies in SGC Ex. No question whatsoever in MY mind as to who got the better deal, now and at any time in the future!

Best wishes,

Larry

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

A low end 10? ?? Seriously? The whole thing has reached a point of absurdity if we are talking about high end and low end 10s.

+1

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

man give me all of your mint 1974 schmidts for 10 dollar a piece since thats all they are worth

In all seriousness I would never pay more than $10 for that exact card to be in my collection. I don't believe in the magic plastic holders but understand there are several that do. I hope they don't get too offended when I laugh really hard at their purchases just like I don't get offended when they laugh really hard at my ungraded worthless beater collection.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bnorth

In all seriousness I would never pay more than $10 for that exact card to be in my collection. I don't believe in the magic plastic holders but understand there are several that do. I hope they don't get too offended when I laugh really hard at their purchases just like I don't get offended when they laugh really hard at my ungraded worthless beater collection.

right understood.....when not paying much you really cant lose much so i dont disagree with your buying methods....when i buy high dollar cards though i do care about what others are looking to buy...

i hate advertising for example on the internet but if thats where the customers go to look to use my services..than i have to do what the people value...

Its funny when you are kid you are told to not care what others think....but when you are looking to sell a card at what you think is market price...then you absolutely care what others think....