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Everyone knows about the Drabek and Hoiles white border variation but how about this Smoltz orange border variation?

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Here's the Drabek and Hoiles in case you weren't aware
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Bold 40th Logo & Non-Bold
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Im sure ive got a few and never even noticed them
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Agree that building or even agreeing on what might constitute a full master set of the Topps 1991 set would be a lifetime effort. Even if you were to concentrate on just the backs or fronts it would be a journey. Plus there is the Desert Shield related set
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I think there is a Ventura with a pink(?) border and then the Mark Whiten card.
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backs
red ink
glows bright under UV
no reaction to UV
"glows" very dark red under UV (Actually fairly tough)

cardboard
Normal
No reaction to UV
Mild reaction to UV - possibly fiber transfer, but seems far too common

Lighter cardboard more tan than usual

Fronts-
Some clearcoat reacts to UV as greenish -haven't studied it much.


The back ink UV reaction is there to some degree in at least 85,86, 88 and 91 although none are as bright as the 91s


I have a couple of the manager back design players cards as well as a manager card with a players back design. I believe they're partial wrong backs. In other words they got the wrong reddish ink, but the correct black ink.

The single orange border is a printing flaw. One I'd collect as it's a bit unusual but not a variation. (Others might call it a variation)

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Bold 40th Logo & Non-Bold
Bold logos appear on A* & B* sheets

Here is a quick cut & paste of the numbers that have bold logos:

10,13,28,29,30,35,36,37,44,47,48,50,51,52,54,62,63 ,66,69,72,76,80,82,83,85,86,90,94,95,96,98,100,105 ,114,120,123,134,139,144,145,147,153,155,
62,163,164,168,170,173,175,177,178,183,186,187,188 ,190,192,193,195,
199,202,206,208,212,213,214,216,217,218,220,222,22 3,232,235,237,240,
242,244,245,247,248,249,250,252,257,262,265,267,26 8,270,271,272,276,
282,284,285,290,293,295,297,298,302,305,307,312,31 4,317,319,320,322,
324,327,328,336,343,345,350,352,357,360,362,370,37 2,373,377,378,382,
384,385,409,413,415,418,420,421,422,424,431,432,43 5,440,445,447,448,
450,452,454,461,463,468,469,470,475,476,478,479,48 0,481,482,483,485,
490,494,496,502,505,509,511,513,522,524,532,535,53 8,541,542,544,546,
547,548,552,556,558,561,563,564,565,571,574,580,58 2,583,584,587,591,
595,597,598,610,617,621,622,624,642,644,647,648,65 0,653,655,660,664,
667,671,672,675,677,682,683,686,690,695,698,709,71 0,715,716,717,718,
719,722,724,727,728,731,732,736,738,746,755,756,75 8,763,768,773,774,
781,782,783,785,788,791,792
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Here are those border variations that were mentioned.

#385 - Mickey Tettleton - can be found with full black inner border and upper gray and yellow border. Full black border is only found on non-glow back cards, upper yellow border found only on glow back cards. Both can be found with and without bold logos on back.

#461 - Robin Ventura - can be found with full red inner border and left gray inner border. Full red border is only found on non-glow back cards, gray left border found only on glow back cards. Both can be found with and without bold logos on back.

#695 - Kevin Seitzer - Can be found with full blue inner border and top yellow/green border. Full blue border is only found on non-glow back cards, green/yellow top border only found on glow back cards. Both can be found with and without bold logos.

#724 - David Segui - Can be found with full gray inner border and right blue inner border. Full gray border is only found on non-glow back cards, right blue border only found on glow back cards. Both can be found with and without bold logos.
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so there are bold and non-bold backs, glow and non-glow backs, and to make things more interesting topps sprinkled in some sheet code variations to give the set some more flavor. There are cards with both A*B* & A* sheet codes (A*B* being more difficult of the two), there are cards with E*F* & F* sheet codes (F* being more difficult of the two), #9 in the set has an F* sheet code and a second variation with NO sheet code (pictured). #124 in the set has an D* sheet code and a second variation with NO sheet code. #459 in the set (pictured) has variations with an A* sheet code, a B* sheet code, and an A*B* sheet code (A*) most tough.

Each sheet code variation also has the possibility of having glow and non-glow backs and bold and non-bold logos creating an unknown number of compound variations. To make matters more confusing card #s 155, 270, and 454 also have listed variations attached to them, so trying to figure out how many variations of each of those exist is next to impossible.

Here is a cut and paste list of card numbers in the set with sheet code variations:

5,9,13,54,63,72,76,83,87,120,123,124,153,155,170,1 77,178,190,192,193,
213,216,223,233,237,242,248,250,265,270,272,284,29 0,297,312,314,317,
345,382,384,422,440,452,454,459,463,475,478,480,48 1,509,532,538,584,
595,610,622,642,644,650,664,667,676,677,696,716,71 8,756,781,783,785
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If a black hole could exist on earth it might take the form of a Topps 1991 Master set
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