2001 Albert Pujols bowman chrome

[ALR-bishop]

I have no idea if Pujols used or uses PEDs, but I would not have gone public with allegations that he did based on what someone else told me, especially if that person had not gone public with the allegation. Clark may have been advised not to call Pujol's bluff without some available corroboration

[Ryan1125]

Every time I see one for sale, it's expensive! From what I understand it pretty much started the whole "Bowman Chrome Rookie Auto" craze that is still around today... The player's 1st Bowman Chrome autograph is their most prized card for collectors. I'm also pretty sure there were only /499 available...

I also think Pujols did steroids IMHO but he appears to have slipped by unscathed with little to no effect on his card values!

[Coninefan]

There are only 350 or so in circulation. Not all of them were redeemed.

It's an iconic card. A lot of them have been altered, either by trimming (it was notoriously off-centered) or by wiping the auto clean and resigning it. There are also six 5/500 autos out there. Who knows which one is actually real.

If you ever decide to buy, do some research first. Look up "2001 Pujols autograph" on ebay. See how nearly all of them signed in '01 are slanted heavily to the right? Fakes are very loopy. Most were signed years later around 2005, either by Pujols or Kevin Burge.

http://www.freedomcardboard.com/foru...e-Rc-MUST-READ

[ls7plus]

"Only" is a very relative term, I suppose. Either 350 or 499 would not even be considered scarce in the context of prewar. From the standpoint of all-time icons, it is grossly overpriced. Examples: 1939 V351 Worldwide Gum Ted Williams rookie, with a total of just 3 graded by both PSA and SGC--recent sale of one example in SGC Ex (to me) at $4,050; 1907 Dietsche Fielding Pose Cobb rookie--with I believe a total of 8 graded by both PSA and SGC (its been some months since I last checked)--recent sale of one in PSA Ex, according to one dealer with a lesser-graded example at the National for $8,000. IMHO, this card is either likely to be static or fall in value in the long run, while examples similar to and including the above are likely to appreciate at a significant to substantial rate.

Just my two cents worth, and happy collecting,

Larry

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

"Only" is a very relative term, I suppose. Either 350 or 499 would not even be considered scarce in the context of prewar. From the standpoint of all-time icons, it is grossly overpriced. Examples: 1939 V351 Worldwide Gum Ted Williams rookie, with a total of just 3 graded by both PSA and SGC--recent sale of one example in SGC Ex (to me) at $4,050; 1907 Dietsche Fielding Pose Cobb rookie--with I believe a total of 8 graded by both PSA and SGC (its been some months since I last checked)--recent sale of one in PSA Ex, according to one dealer with a lesser-graded example at the National for $8,000. IMHO, this card is either likely to be static or fall in value in the long run, while examples similar to and including the above are likely to appreciate at a significant to substantial rate.

Just my two cents worth, and happy collecting,

Larry

Sound logic there Larry! However your assumption presumes collectors will act logically

Sometimes, things are too rare for their own good. I agree with your sentiment and value the true rarities a great deal myself!

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by yanksfan09

Sound logic there Larry! However your assumption presumes collectors will act logically

Sometimes, things are too rare for their own good. I agree with your sentiment and value the true rarities a great deal myself!

You have a point, Erick, but it's more long-term economics than anything else. Value will always be proportional to demand over supply, and objectively, there's little to suggest Albert will retain the kind of demand it takes to get a card available in that quantity to maintain that price. Certainly he's no Cobb or Williams in that respect, in the long run.

May collecting bring you mostly joy, with a minimum of sorrow or frustration,

Larry

[yanksfan09]

Thanks, I agree Larry, that over a long enough time line logic should win out and the true rarities should appreciate more.

It just really baffles me and I shake my head when I see some of the new trends on what goes for big $. Such as 1986 Johnny Moore Fleer PSA 10's... ( think it was over 10 or 12k?)

The prices for certain grade 9's and 10's and prices on modern RC's that have artificial rarity just astonishes me. I feel that the prices a lot of these command is likely not sustainable, nor should it be.

[yanksfan09]

Originally Posted by Coninefan

There are only 350 or so in circulation. Not all of them were redeemed.

It's an iconic card. A lot of them have been altered, either by trimming (it was notoriously off-centered) or by wiping the auto clean and resigning it. There are also six 5/500 autos out there. Who knows which one is actually real.

If you ever decide to buy, do some research first. Look up "2001 Pujols autograph" on ebay. See how nearly all of them signed in '01 are slanted heavily to the right? Fakes are very loopy. Most were signed years later around 2005, either by Pujols or Kevin Burge.

http://www.freedomcardboard.com/foru...e-Rc-MUST-READ

Hadn't heard about all these rumors. I don't see myself ever pursuing the card, but it sounds like people really need to do their homework on it if considering one...