And let the games begin - REA is underway!

[glchen]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

Looks like collectors are flooding in to place bids on the modern Helmars. So far, only five of the 15 lots of modern Helmars have attracted an opening bid. I don't "hate" those cards for what they are, but I don't really understand why they have been in REA the past couple auctions.

Eddie Sm*th

I could never understand this either. Arguably the most prestigious auction house for cards having cards that I don't believe PSA, SGC, nor Beckett will holder and aren't listed in the Standard Catalog or other baseball card reference guides. Just seems very out of place.

[bcornell]

Originally Posted by glchen

I could never understand this either. Arguably the most prestigious auction house for cards having cards that I don't believe PSA, SGC, nor Beckett will holder and aren't listed in the Standard Catalog or other baseball card reference guides. Just seems very out of place.

Why does anything need to be in a catalog (or in a holder) to justify being sold?

Auction houses will sell Leroy Neiman paintings. The bar couldn't be lowered more than that.

[glchen]

I think I've mentioned this before in one of the Helmar threads, but I am unsure whether these cards have the proper licensing. That is, for example, are the proper royalties being paid to the estate of Babe Ruth when his cards are issued by Helmar? Usually TPG's will not holder cards that are not properly licensed.

[bcornell]

Originally Posted by glchen

Usually TPG's will not holder cards that are not properly licensed.

Huh?

Who cares about TPG's, in this case? The Helmar "cards" are not graded and not being sold that way. They're fantasy things. Please lighten up.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by bcornell

Huh?

Who cares about TPG's, in this case? The Helmar "cards" are not graded and not being sold that way. They're fantasy things. Please lighten up.

I'm obviously not a lawyer, but I thought vendors could be sued by the estate for selling items that aren't licensed. Sure, these are fantasy items, but they're not being given away for free. Of course, if Helmar "cards" have been properly licensed, then I take back everything I've said here.

[Kevin.Shenker]

Originally Posted by glchen

I'm obviously not a lawyer, but I thought vendors could be sued by the estate for selling items that aren't licensed. Sure, these are fantasy items, but they're not being given away for free. Of course, if Helmar "cards" have been properly licensed, then I take back everything I've said here.

I think they are very attractive cards, but I dislike how minimal the advertisement is on them being modern, fakes/reprints.

If you search for t206 the only thing in the title are the quote marks around it is "t206" with quote marks around it in the title.

The description only says "Collection of eighty-six different cards, similar in design to the popular T206 White-Border tobacco cards, issued by the Helmar Brewing Company. "

and

"Like all of the Helmar issues, these cards were intentionally produced with a distressed look, with most having rounded corners and rubbed edges."

Shouldn't it say, 2015 Helmar or something to that affect to make it more clear this is not a real vintage card?

Additionally, would an an auction house catch some heat if they sell wagner reprints for 5 bucks a clip? I would agree it seems out of place.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by Kevin.Shenker

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Additionally, would an an auction house catch some heat if they sell wagner reprints for 5 bucks a clip? ...

Actually, that has been done before: Link1, Link2

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by bcornell

Why does anything need to be in a catalog (or in a holder) to justify being sold?

Auction houses will sell Leroy Neiman paintings. The bar couldn't be lowered more than that.

I agree. He barely paints within the numbers.