1887-1890 Old Judge NEW QUESTION

[oldjudge]

The Old Judge book has short bios on every player.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

The Old Judge book has short bios on every player.

Is this a relatively cheap book? Similar to the T206 book or more info on the players than that?

[oldjudge]

I've seen copies sell in the $25-$50 range recently. The research you did probably cost you more than that in time expended. I'll leave it to others to comment on the book's quality.

[bn2cardz]

The book can found at a good price (compared to the info you received)

I see one on ebay at $40:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MILLER-MASSO...item2c9d5b98ec

The auction has a photo that shows the length of the BIOs.

I enjoy reading through the BIOs just as much as I enjoy reading through the set in general.

[Eric72]

Hi Josh,

I have the Old Judge book, think it is outstanding, and highly recommend that you pick up a copy. The folks who put it together did an excellent job.

Best regards,

Eric

[Joshchisox08]

Thanks for the help guys and for Steve H directing me Mann's SABR article !!!

[autograf]

No better book if you are thinking about collecting Old Judge. Detail is unsurpassed.

[shernan30]

Here is the link to a write up on Fred Mann:
http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/3b8d1e5f

I'm working on a bio of Wild Bill Widner now, but its far from complete.

As far as the Goodwin OJ book, its highly recommended if you even the slightest interest in the set. Pictures of nearly every pose issued, short bios about the players, team lists, rarity lists, how they were produced, etc... The list can go on and on. My copy gets used at least once every week if not more.

Steven

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by shernan30

Here is the link to a write up on Fred Mann:
http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/3b8d1e5f

I'm working on a bio of Wild Bill Widner now, but its far from complete.

As far as the Goodwin OJ book, its highly recommended if you even the slightest interest in the set. Pictures of nearly every pose issued, short bios about the players, team lists, rarity lists, how they were produced, etc... The list can go on and on. My copy gets used at least once every week if not more.

Steven

Here's an N173 style studio cabinet photo of Fred Mann. I knew if I waited long enough, there would be a tread I could post this on and still be on topic. The OJ book is a great resource guide. Nice list of names and I think any additional research just adds to the fun..Rob

[trdcrdkid]

Josh --

I heartily agree with those who are recommending the Old Judge book, which is indispensable. But if you're looking for more biographical info than is found there, especially for people not (yet) included in the SABR BioProject, the following three books, edited by David Nemec and written by him and other members of the SABR Nineteenth-Century Committee, are very useful:

* Major League Baseball Profiles, Volume 1: The Ballplayers Who Built the Game
* Major League Baseball Profiles, Volume 2: The Hall of Famers and Memorable Personalities Who Shaped the Game
* The Rank and File of 19th Century Major League Baseball: Biographies of 1,084 Players, Owners, Managers and Umpires

These three books include biographies of every man who played, managed, or umpired even a single game in major league baseball from 1871 through 1900. Unfortunately for your purposes, they don't include people who never played in the majors, and so they don't have many/most of the people in your original list. But they have the most complete biographical information available about many obscure major leaguers from that era, including most of the players on Old Judges.

[bcornell]

How many threads have we seen in the 14-year history of this board where people have begged for a magazine or a book or any type of reference that could help you learn about the hobby? Yet, when we finally get one, we hear "too expensive".

The OJ book costs $125. That's the price of a VG T206 HOFer today, I believe. Put another way, how much would you pay for the info in the 30-year-old Lipset encyclopedias? These are the only good books published in this hobby. C'mon.

Bill

[oaks1912]

Well put Bill...I bought the book when new at $125 and felt then and now that it was an incredible value at that level. Thousands of man hours of original research went into it....... Besides that, plagiarism (stealing information and images) isn't research !!

Originally Posted by bcornell

How many threads have we seen in the 14-year history of this board where people have begged for a magazine or a book or any type of reference that could help you learn about the hobby? Yet, when we finally get one, we hear "too expensive".

The OJ book costs $125. That's the price of a VG T206 HOFer today, I believe. Put another way, how much would you pay for the info in the 30-year-old Lipset encyclopedias? These are the only good books published in this hobby. C'mon.

Bill