Show...me...your print variations!

[swarmee]

So I was browsing COMC and submitted an error that a 1954 Preacher Roe card had an ink mark at the top and shouldn't be in the raw bucket, and they actually noted it as a print variation. Searched for it in this forum, but didn't get a hit so I figured it might be new to you guys.


1954 Bowman #218.2 - Preacher Roe (Ink Loop in Sky)
Courtesy of COMC.com

Regular one:

1954 Bowman #218 - Preacher Roe [GOOD]
Courtesy of COMC.com

They have three of them on site (two of Dean's), so that's how they were able to assign it a print variation. Doesn't look like PSA notes it, since there are only 5 graded of any 1954 Bowman Preacher Roe.

[ALR-bishop]

The Roe variation, and the similar Erskine variation in the same set, are listed in the SCD Standard Catalog and discussed by Bob Lemke on his Blog. They seem to involve errant autos from cards above on the sheets they were on

Green print is over the black mark scribble which is dull. I'm glad I saved it

Normal back

[JollyElm]

Are you certain the black is legitimately under the green text?? With the relative 'slickness' of the green ink as compared to the super absorbency of the dull, non-coated cardboard, it seems likely the card was written on by a kid with a magic marker and it isn't some bizarre printing variation. That would account for the black marker being murky on top of the green words. Occam's razor and all that. Plus, there was no black ink (black plate) involved in the printing of 1975 Topps backs.

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Are you certain the black is legitimately under the green text?? With the relative 'slickness' of the green ink as compared to the super absorbency of the dull, non-coated cardboard, it seems likely the card was written on by a kid with a magic marker and it isn't some bizarre printing variation. That would account for the black marker being murky on top of the green words. Occam's razor and all that. Plus, there was no black ink (black plate) involved in the printing of 1975 Topps backs.

I did a test on a 75 common card with a black marker, the ink covered the letters.Also when you look at the Gibson card at different angles under a bright light with a 10x jewelers loupe the mark is behind the green letters

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by rgpete

I did a test on a 75 common card with a black marker, the ink covered the letters.Also when you look at the Gibson card at different angles under a bright light with a 10x jewelers loupe the mark is behind the green letters

I have found that a 1200dpi or better scan works much better than a small 10X loupe. Also compare the black ink on the back of your card to the black ink on the front of another 75 Gibson card under a cfl, halogen, and black light to make sure the ink reacts the same under those 3 different light sources. Some swear by only black lights, I find them to be the least useful unless the card was altered by a modern marker/ink.

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