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Old 09-03-2015, 10:58 AM
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In my morning grog I thought this thread was started by Richard Serman and almost choked on my coffee.
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Lesson to children, this just proves cheating does win.
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Old 09-03-2015, 02:28 PM
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Keep cheating Tom. Good example for your children.
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is every lineman who gets away with an illegal hold a cheater?
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is every lineman who gets away with an illegal hold a cheater?
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Our legal system isn't perfect but Goodell is far from ethical and there was no proof Brady cheated....this from a Bills fan
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is every lineman who gets away with an illegal hold a cheater?
I agree - all forms of cheating should be allowed in the NFL, regardless of what it is. But then again, if my girlfriend asks me for a glass of apple juice, I give her orange juice and she has the nerve to complain.
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Lesson to children, this just proves cheating does win.


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Good thing he cheated......Indianapolis would have REALLY been blown out since they scored less points in the first half with deflated balls...............
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This whole saga has reminded me of the scene from Band of Brothers where Sobel tried to court-martial Winters because Winters was 15 minutes late to an inspection that he didn't know the time had been moved (from 10 AM to 9:45). Long story short, Sobel lost his company command and was transferred out of the division, Winters went on to receive several medals, and West Point still studies one of his attacks today, 70 years after the fact.
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Knowingly altering the equipment to give yourself an advantage is cheating. That is much different than a lineman being called for a hold on a single play. If you think there's no proof, remember that Brady is the man who holds the football every play he's on the field for.
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Knowingly altering the equipment to give yourself an advantage is cheating. That is much different than a lineman being called for a hold on a single play. If you think there's no proof, remember that Brady is the man who holds the football every play he's on the field for.
Did a single referee notice any difference in the game balls that supposedly had been altered to give an advantage? They handle them on every play too.
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Good thing he cheated......Indianapolis would have REALLY been blown out since they scored less points in the first half with deflated balls...............
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Lesson to children, this just proves cheating does win.
that is what is wrong with society. When did cheating become okay? Guess it is okay if you win but not okay if you get caught or lose.
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I believe he should at least be fined and maybe suspended two games or both, but not four...that's way excessive IMO. And I don't believe the people that are calling for a suspension, etc., are bitter, but rather just looking for some sort of punishment for Brady for doing something he shouldn't have. If Goodell would bring it down a notch, he could have disciplined Brady without trying to overdo it and be some sort of mighty dictator. I'm glad however, that the judge overtuned the initial ruling and called out Goodell in the process.
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If inflation or deflation is just a personal preference then why did the league set a rule that mandated the pressure of the football? The guy broke a rule. If you don't want to call it cheating, fine. But we should be able to agree what he did was in violation of league rules and a suspension seems fair to me.
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If inflation or deflation is just a personal preference then why did the league set a rule that mandated the pressure of the football? The guy broke a rule. If you don't want to call it cheating, fine. But we should be able to agree what he did was in violation of league rules and a suspension seems fair to me.
I will say it AGAIN, what rule was he PROVEN to break?? This is the opportune word here: PROVEN in my opinion. The good thing is that here is the US, you are innocent until PROVEN guilty (lawyers chime in please )
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If inflation or deflation is just a personal preference then why did the league set a rule that mandated the pressure of the football? The guy broke a rule. If you don't want to call it cheating, fine. But we should be able to agree what he did was in violation of league rules and a suspension seems fair to me.

Even if he did something, of which I've seen no real proof, the league mandate for altering equipment is a fine, not suspension. If you choose to ignore basic facts, well ...... there's no law against jealously and envy of Brady's and the Patriots' success.

The real travesty here is the Goodell kangaroo court and the NFL's overreach. The judge obviously agreed to the extent of overturning a finding originally held within the framework of a CBA, which I understand they are normally very reluctant to do.
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