Help understanding the rarity of T213-3 with Overprint

[kdixon]

I have this Wheat. I look on ebay from time to time for them and will be like 70 or 80 type threes and no overprints.

[MMarvelli]

SGC lists the type 3 overprints as "Factory No. 8"

T213-3 Doyle, Larry (bat) (F+B).jpg

T213-3 Hoblitzel, Dick (F+B).jpg

[trobba]

So to get it on this thread, this is the confirmed list as best I can come up with:

Cobb - both red portrait and batting**
mathewson
hoblitzell**
mcgraw port** and glove hip
E collins**
chase - portrait, trophy and throwing**
davis
dubuc
magee
elberfeld**
sweeney
merkle
evers
speaker
donovan
gandil
griffith
bender trees and no trees**
wheat
marquard pitching
Doyle batting

** cards with multiple confirmed examples

[buymycards]

The Standard Catalog also lists Jennings both hands, so that makes 27 of 70 cards in the Type 3 set.

[brass_rat]

I have a Johnson overprint.

Cheers,
Steve

[cfc1909]

here is an REA auction for Doolan fielding with factory 8

https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...x?itemid=33843

[obcmac]

Originally Posted by kdixon

I have this Wheat. I look on ebay from time to time for them and will be like 70 or 80 type threes and no overprints.

Love the type 3's. I don't know if the "70-80" is reflective of the sample though...as about 98% of those are from the same collection...and seem to be priced in the card museum range. Quick look at the sgc population...with about 270 slabbed...would 10% of type threes being overprinted be a reasonable guess?

I'm up to 7 total cards now (no overprints)...a long way to go.

Mac

[tedzan]

Still looking for a T213-3 Factory #8 overprint of Chase......and, the T213-2 (Buffalo) version to complete my 5-some sub-set.

Any help is greatly appreciated.


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Thanks guys,


TED Z
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[atx840]

I'm sure we could figure something out Ted

[ullmandds]

cris u cant break up that run!!!!

[1880nonsports]

Ted says he hates you now :-)

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

cris u cant break up that run!!!!

DITTO

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

Ted says he hates you now :-)

I have a couple of blue Chase's that Chris is really interested in. It's a ongoing game we play....trading blue Chase's to each other.

Anyhow, since I'm such a considerate dude, I will not tempt Chris to break up his COUPON "5-some" .


TED Z
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[RCMcKenzie]

I had some bids in on the REA lot that Jim referenced w/ the Factory 8 back. I was bidding b/c I needed all 3 of those cards toward the T213-3 set. Regular T213-3's are difficult to find with the factory 3 designation. With the factory 8 back as a goal, you might look for a long time for a specific card. I don't have any Factory 8's b/c they go for a premium to type collectors. I wouldn't consider a back run incomplete w/o the Factory 8 back, but it would be fun to have.

On a side note, I still need Greminger, Hickman, LaPorte & Rhoades to complete the T213-1 set...Ted, I can send over this T213-2 Chase Buffalo as a finder's fee, if you can help find one of these remaining four cards... Will also trade lopsidedly with anyone else who has one of these. Thanks, Rob

[edjs]

Originally Posted by obcmac

Love the type 3's. I don't know if the "70-80" is reflective of the sample though...as about 98% of those are from the same collection...and seem to be priced in the card museum range. Quick look at the sgc population...with about 270 slabbed...would 10% of type threes being overprinted be a reasonable guess?

I'm up to 7 total cards now (no overprints)...a long way to go.

Mac

When you mentioned "seem to be priced in the card museum range," it made me wonder, what is a normal price for a type 3? I have a Bridwell PSA 2 that I bought a while back, it was being listed as a type 2, but when I got it, I realized it was a type 3. I have always wondered what it was really worth, as all I ever see are those museum prices on e-bay. I know it isn't a $750-1200 card, but what would be a fair estimate? Anyone care to give a swag?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by edjs

When you mentioned "seem to be priced in the card museum range," it made me wonder, what is a normal price for a type 3? I have a Bridwell PSA 2 that I bought a while back, it was being listed as a type 2, but when I got it, I realized it was a type 3. I have always wondered what it was really worth, as all I ever see are those museum prices on e-bay. I know it isn't a $750-1200 card, but what would be a fair estimate? Anyone care to give a swag?

there is a fair amount of pricing history for t213-3's out there. really depends a lot on who the player is and how badly someone wants it???? But it seems type 3's in nice shape(vgish) are selling in the 4-500 range for commons...with OP's selling 25% or so higher.

[trobba]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

there is a fair amount of pricing history for t213-3's out there. really depends a lot on who the player is and how badly someone wants it???? But it seems type 3's in nice shape(vgish) are selling in the 4-500 range for commons...with OP's selling 25% or so higher.

I would say OP's sell for at least 50% higher and often more.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by trobba

I would say OP's sell for at least 50% higher and often more.

well using your estimates for regular type 3's...I'd agree.

Personally...I have not seen type 3's for sale under 200 each in my memory?

[trobba]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

well using your estimates for regular type 3's...I'd agree.

Personally...I have not seen type 3's for sale under 200 each in my memory?

It looked like Ed was talking about a PSA 2 card, maybe you are talking about PSA 3 cards (VG)? ~ could account for our price discrepancy.

What grade are you referring to for not selling under $200?

[trobba]

Hi Ed, I guess the obvious answer to find out what it is really worth is to put it in an auction of some kind.

If you intend to keep it and simply want an educated guess I would say anywhere from $100 - $350...I know the range is a bit absurd, but there are so little data points on the t213-3 cards that they are really hit or miss. The actual sale price (if you listed it) would likely fall in the middle, and probably closer to the lower end. However, due to the extreme scarcity of the set, all it takes is a Bridwell fan (or Bridwell back collector) and someone who wants a t213-3 example to get it close to the top end.

Hope that is helpful...Rob