T5 Pinkerton mystery cards

[glynparson]

Are available for a number of the teams and is unrelated to the length of the photo. I believe as another has already stated that it was a cheaper alternative to the more expensive cardboard mounts.

[T206Jim]

I think the longer 6 inch size, note the particularly wide borders at top and bottom on the examples posted here, and the thicker stock are the key difference between this variant and the other Pinkertons.

[Vintagecatcher]

Very interesting thread gentleman!

Looks like we have:

1) Pinkerton Cabinets (Real photos without wide white borders on photo stock)

These are normally found on cardboard mounts which came in a variety of colors (gray, tan etc.)...sometimes found on cheaper construction paper mounts...sometimes unmounted either having never been mounted or they have come free from their original mounts. I have been told original photos have been glued on only 2 corners of the photos.

2) Pinkerton Postcards (Sepia colored on cardboard) These are not real photos. These can be blank backed or can be found with a scorecard back. Commonly used as postcards.

3) Pinkerton Photo Cards (Photos on a heavier cardboard stock with wider white boarder which are larger than the photos used on the Pinkerton Cabinets.)

Patrick

[jeffmohler]

With respect to the Cleveland photos posted above it would be interesting to see the reverse side. Detached Pinkerton photos generally have a strip of glue residue on the top of the reverse side. Neither of my "mystery cards" have glue residue on the top of the reverse.

My understanding is that T5 photos were attached to the mounts only by gluing the top of the photo to the mount. You can see where the glue is by the wrinkling of the top of the photo on the Jack Coombs and Rube Oldring T5s posted by HR Baker above.

[MartyFromCANADA]

Originally Posted by jeffmohler

With respect to the Cleveland photos posted above it would be interesting to see the reverse side. Detached Pinkerton photos generally have a strip of glue residue on the top of the reverse side. Neither of my "mystery cards" have glue residue on the top of the reverse.

My understanding is that T5 photos were attached to the mounts only by gluing the top of the photo to the mount. You can see where the glue is by the wrinkling of the top of the photo on the Jack Coombs and Rube Oldring T5s posted by HR Baker above.

The checklist of T5's in Mr. Lemke's catalog has the Graney numbered 618 and the Smith 624, same as in the photos posted here without cardboard backing. Have to assume with the numbers correlating, they must at least be a Pinkerton issue.
BTW; does anyone have the George Gibson T5. Just want to see it.

[Vintagecatcher]

Marty,

Although a Pinkerton T5 Cabinet of George Gibson may exist, I do not remember ever seeing one in all of my years collecting his types.

Patrick

[MartyFromCANADA]

Originally Posted by Vintagecatcher

Marty,

Although a Pinkerton T5 Cabinet of George Gibson may exist, I do not remember ever seeing one in all of my years collecting his types.

Patrick

Thanks for the information Patrick. Disappointing, hopefully one surfaces someday.

-Marty

[jeffmohler]

I see that another one of these rare mystery cards surfaced in Lot 622 of the fall, 2017 REA. The lot contained an Oldring card. The lot description referenced this thread!

Does anyone have anything new to add to the thread?

[T206Jim]

I won that lot, i’ll post images and the card details when I have it in hand.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by T206Jim

I won that lot, i’ll post images and the card details when I have it in hand.

I saw that one but there were too many other things to go for. Nice pick up. I think that is only the 3rd one I have seen. Though that depends if some seen are actually just the photos from the cabinets. The cards are on card-like stock.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by T206Jim

I won that lot, i’ll post images and the card details when I have it in hand.

Thanks, I think.....won last night in LOTG

and always willing to buy more!!