A little disappointment rant

[Exhibitman]

Did you wire the funds on the 10th? Because if you did not send a wire transfer or other instant payment [I d/k if LOTG takes PP], expecting lightning fast shipment is completely unreasonable.

It can take two full business weeks from my receipt of the check to see if the check is good. Banks often accommodate good customers by making deposited funds available before receiving such confirmation from the payor bank. This is considered by the bank to be a provisional settlement, which may be revoked by the bank and is not the same as the funds having cleared (which may take weeks depending on the nature and location of the originating bank).

Also agree that the place to start with this sort of thing is with the vendor directly, not in a public board, esp. where the vendor is a fellow board member.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Did you wire the funds on the 10th? Because if you did not send a wire transfer or other instant payment [I d/k if LOTG takes PP], expecting lightning fast shipment is completely unreasonable.

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LOTG takes paypal, so I assume when the OP stated that he paid on the 10th, that was via Paypal.

Also, my take is that the OP is just looking for an email stating that the package has been shipped, not necessarily delivered by the 16th. So for the poster stating that OP should only use AH's west of MS, I don't think that's fair.

I do agree that Al sent an email stating shipping would be delayed, so he does deserve a little more understanding here, and certainly not a thread stating OP will no longer bid in future auctions. Hopefully, things will work out here.

[jefferyepayne]

There are bigger fish to fry in this industry:

* auction house executives going to prison for fraud
* shillers and card doctors
* auction house owners who used to cheat old ladies out of their retirement on TV

I'd give an honest, hard working, ethical, diligent, auction owner like Al a pass and focus a boycott on the above if you want to make a statement.

jeff

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

There are bigger fish to fry in this industry:

* auction house executives going to prison for fraud
* shillers and card doctors
* auction house owners who used to cheat old ladies out of their retirement on TV

I'd give an honest, hard working, ethical, diligent, auction owner like Al a pass and focus a boycott on the above if you want to make a statement.

jeff

Exactly...I wonder if Lug-Nut was still bidding in Legendary up to the final death knell?

[ejharrington]

Their website states "We will begin shipping materials as quickly as possible after payment."

They do not promise same day delivery.

Enjoy the anticipation of receiving the card and lighten up!

[HRBAKER]

Mercy, a minor inconvenience.
Let the man run his business.
JMHO

[kmac32]

I miss the Jerry Springer Show

[ValKehl]

Al, great response to the OP. If you ever get tired of doing auctions, you could teach classes in damage control. Not that there was any need for an apology or damage control in this instance, IMHO. If Al isn't the best in the business, then I don't know who is!
Val

[forazzurri2axz]

I would like everyone here to boycott every single AH for obvious reasons...finally I could get a lot of cards at great prices!

[stone193]

It's not like you're waiting for a kidney?

[Peter_Spaeth]

We all want instant gratification, but given how many things Al does right, I think he's entitled to a break here.

[D. Bergin]

Wow, I remember the days I'd be happy to get a shipment from one of the major auction houses within the month, sometimes having to wait 6 weeks or more. Now if it's not received before the week is out, boycotts are being started. Rough business.

[lug-nut]

It's funny how much smack some of you guys talk when several of you have posted far worse derogatory things about fellow board members. I'm not going to humor most of your posts since they were a little extreme.

I will clarify that I did pay via PP and I did not expect my items delivered within a week, I expected a "shipment sent" email like I was told in the email that came 3 days after the end of the auction. And the email I sent to LOTG, has not been answered as of 20 minutes ago.

I expressed my disappointment about an AH that no matter what AH it was, would get the same response. I know for a fact that I'm not the first to express their disappointment about an AH on forum. I wasn't slanderous, I didn't call anyone a douche-bag, I wasn't sarcastic like some of you were in this thread. which now tells me what sellers and buyers to stay away from. I don't post negative feedback on ebay and I'm not petty. And quite frankly, I don't give a frogs fat a*s if your domino's pizza was late, get a real job so you can afford papa john's.

[VintageBall]

Ok that was a great response. Well done!

I'm a New Yorker, we don't do Domino's or papa john's, but that response was funny. But Mario Batali does have a great pizza place here, if you're looking for something more upscale than the usual NYC slice...

Of course, when Papa John opened up an East Village location, they actually handed out flyers touting their new "East Side Village" location, so clearly all that extra dough they are charging you isn't going to learning new markets!

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by lug-nut

It's funny how much smack some of you guys talk when several of you have posted far worse derogatory things about fellow board members. I'm not going to humor most of your posts since they were a little extreme.

I will clarify that I did pay via PP and I did not expect my items delivered within a week, I expected a "shipment sent" email like I was told in the email that came 3 days after the end of the auction. And the email I sent to LOTG, has not been answered as of 20 minutes ago.

I expressed my disappointment about an AH that no matter what AH it was, would get the same response. I know for a fact that I'm not the first to express their disappointment about an AH on forum. I wasn't slanderous, I didn't call anyone a douche-bag, I wasn't sarcastic like some of you were in this thread. which now tells me what sellers and buyers to stay away from. I don't post negative feedback on ebay and I'm not petty. And quite frankly, I don't give a frogs fat a*s if your domino's pizza was late, get a real job so you can afford papa john's.

You mis-spelled, "sorry, I may have jumped the gun a little and apologize for attacking an auction house that does a (generally) great job."

It's OK. Everyone makes mistakes.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by lug-nut

And quite frankly, I don't give a frogs fat a*s if your domino's pizza was late, get a real job so you can afford papa john's.

Is there really a difference in price between Domino's and Papa John's?

[griffon512]

Originally Posted by lug-nut

It's funny how much smack some of you guys talk when several of you have posted far worse derogatory things about fellow board members. I'm not going to humor most of your posts since they were a little extreme.

I will clarify that I did pay via PP and I did not expect my items delivered within a week, I expected a "shipment sent" email like I was told in the email that came 3 days after the end of the auction. And the email I sent to LOTG, has not been answered as of 20 minutes ago.

I expressed my disappointment about an AH that no matter what AH it was, would get the same response. I know for a fact that I'm not the first to express their disappointment about an AH on forum. I wasn't slanderous, I didn't call anyone a douche-bag, I wasn't sarcastic like some of you were in this thread. which now tells me what sellers and buyers to stay away from. I don't post negative feedback on ebay and I'm not petty. And quite frankly, I don't give a frogs fat a*s if your domino's pizza was late, get a real job so you can afford papa john's.

you stated in your post that "I'm not petty," but you will tell someone they must have a crappy job if they ordered from an "inferior" fast food pizza house. really? that's classic.

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by lug-nut

It's funny how much smack some of you guys talk when several of you have posted far worse derogatory things about fellow board members. I'm not going to humor most of your posts since they were a little extreme.

I will clarify that I did pay via PP and I did not expect my items delivered within a week, I expected a "shipment sent" email like I was told in the email that came 3 days after the end of the auction. And the email I sent to LOTG, has not been answered as of 20 minutes ago.

I expressed my disappointment about an AH that no matter what AH it was, would get the same response. I know for a fact that I'm not the first to express their disappointment about an AH on forum. I wasn't slanderous, I didn't call anyone a douche-bag, I wasn't sarcastic like some of you were in this thread. which now tells me what sellers and buyers to stay away from. I don't post negative feedback on ebay and I'm not petty. And quite frankly, I don't give a frogs fat a*s if your domino's pizza was late, get a real job so you can afford papa john's.

^This post made some good points and the end also made me laugh

I think Mark probably should have tried again to contact Al to try to resolve this, but to his credit, he did say he did email and didn't get a response...even though Al said he didn't receive anything...so who really knows where the email is

No one should be bashing Mark for venting about his experience, even if you agree or not. He made some good points and although I don't know if I would have taken the exact path he did, I'm sure I wouldn't expect to get ripped for sharing my experience with everyone here. It's no secret that Al is amazing and one of the best in the business, but that doesn't mean he won't make mistakes from time to time...and I'm not saying he made a huge one here.

I think some of the people that responded to this thread missed the point of the OP. He wasn't looking for everyone to take down Al and his company, but to hear some voices with some constructive feedback would have been nice...which some did.

Mark has been a valued member of this board for a long time...let's treat him with some respect. That being said...Mark, I think you should reconsider LOTG and continue to bid

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Wow, I remember the days I'd be happy to get a shipment from one of the major auction houses within the month, sometimes having to wait 6 weeks or more. Now if it's not received before the week is out, boycotts are being started. Rough business.

i agree, its pretty rough if they are calling people out and not even been a week yet.