The Leon Luckey Type Card Collection – Bidding Ends on Thursday - August 13, 2015

[David R]

I too appreciate Johnny's passion and honesty. And it's nice to see him come on here today and admit that he should not have been so negative the last few days. As someone who got into collecting vintage because of scrap - my Dad gave me a pile of t206s ten years ago that included all the Lash's Bitters cards (neither of us knew what they were) - I share Johnny's passion for t206 oddities. I think his heart is really in the right place.

Now if he would just sell or trade me his blank back t206 hall of famer so I can complete my t206 HOF back set I would really like him

And as for Leon's collection, I was sad to see him sell it but also happy to see all the wonderful cards he accumulated. Leon, I hope you're happy with the results of the auction and I hope your cards bring a lot of joy to all those who were fortunate enough to win them.

[FirstYearCards]

Although not a needed piece, couldn't be happier with this. Also, wanted to help just a little with the root cause of this auction. A selfless act to be very proud of, nice job Leon!

[TaxMechanick]

My only acquisition was this. It is right in my wheel house...an item of extreme rarity, and top flight HOFer!

http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/19...ription-071515

Glenn Mechanick

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by TaxMechanick

My only acquisition was this. It is right in my wheel house...an item of extreme rarity, and top flight HOFer!



http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/19...ription-071515



Glenn Mechanick

Congrats on the pickup. That and the Orange Borders box were a couple of my favorite items in the auction.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by TaxMechanick

My only acquisition was this. It is right in my wheel house...an item of extreme rarity, and top flight HOFer!

http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/19...ription-071515

Glenn Mechanick

Awesome pickup Glenn, I think I was the under bidder (or close)

[TaxMechanick]

Thanks Daryl & Greg! It goes nicely with my similar issue cut cards of Mack and Chance. Even the separate cards are quite rare, but not currently in demand. This does not bother me though; it just means the price was less than what they would have been were they in demand.

Greg, likely, you'll get me next time!

Glenn

[3-2-count]

Came away with this one.

[benchod]

Beautiful Tony
Doesn't get much better looking than a T3 Cobb

[1880nonsports]

lost out to a couple good people - the Kotton and Mino, GQ pack and cartons, OJ "wheel", and a few others. I did win the bakery pennant premium featuring the actors and actresses. Now I just need to find some room for it.............

[TaxMechanick]

Thanks James & Jon!

Glenn

[Bpm0014]

I hate to beat a dead horse but count me as another big Johnny V fan. Although I do not know him and have never really dealt with him, his enthusiasm and helpful attitude are truly refreshing. NOBODY on here is more willing to help other collectors, or offer them tips, or advice, or tries to get others to collect baseball cards for the right reasons, rather than investments etc. I have been on here for a couple of years collecting T206s and have never seen him say a bad word about anybody, or have a poor attitude. Yes he is a little over enthusiastic, but give me his attitude 7 days of the week over some of the other incendiary miserable types here.

[talkinbaseball]

I picked up the pee wee reese pre rookie card photo.
I had my heart set on the zeenut run with the coupons, the mascot and the zeenut postcard.
With a wedding planned next year I had to stay in my budget.
Scott and Leon treat our family awesome.

john

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

I hate to beat a dead horse but count me as another big Johnny V fan. Although I do not know him and have never really dealt with him, his enthusiasm and helpful attitude are truly refreshing. NOBODY on here is more willing to help other collectors, or offer them tips, or advice, or tries to get others to collect baseball cards for the right reasons, rather than investments etc. I have been on here for a couple of years collecting T206s and have never seem him say a bad word about anybody, or have a poor attitude. Yes he is a little over enthusiastic, but give me his attitude 7 days of the week over some of the other incendiary miserable types here.

Please allow a contrasting view. Not all of us here are interested in collecting T206; in fact, I and some others find it for the most part immensely boring. Accordingly, I often ignore threads on the subject rather than complain about it–that is the expected protocol, right? Now imagine my delight when there’s a thread started on a type collection–a magnificent one with (in my view) endless subjects of discussion-and from a board member no less. A collection after my own heart, with a little something for everybody that may bring out very informative posts about more obscure issues. I open that thread to see repeated ramblings that I found nearly incoherent about, guess what–T206! Better still, Frankenstein and scrap T206, where machine shop errors are elevated to cult and coveted status. More and more were my eyes treated to these posts. Now I’m sorry, but IF EVER there was a thread in which such subject could take a back seat to the topic at hand and go its own way for those who care, this was it. But no, on and on it went, with the same poster often just posting one after another.

Then, instead of getting back on track, there was a somewhat prolonged period of testimonials for this poster and his apparent unmatched “passion” and exuberance for his niche, as though the rest of us can’t get that and as if that was the point. Another day or so of few meaty posts in favor of more opportunities to hear from the T206 collectors. Thankfully, there since have been a good number of posts about pick-ups from this exquisite grouping.

I admit to having never even taken much less scored highly in an etiquette class, and by no means did I diffuse the situation here. Perhaps I am incendiary, although I am not miserable. This board and the hobby have changed over the past few years, neither to my liking. I blame no one, or maybe I blame everyone. There are options available to me, and they should be considered. For purposes of this post and thread, though, I just want to congratulate Leon and all who were fortunate enough to have won something, and hope to hear more about those winnings.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Todd I think you are both incendiary and miserable.

[mrvster]

I have to say that was a very thoughtful and kind post.....it put a smile on my face big time!!.....like all the other kind words/posts/and emails lately....

that was a very touching post my friend! I always got your back and all the positive folks here......this just gets me more motivated to help fine folks like we have here.....

I like to find the good in people.....I have found so many great people here.....I just can't even begin to start...

Peter has become such a part of this board, I seriously couldn't see this board without him! another incredible person and witty

I know Leon will build another fascinating collection, it's in our blood! he has the passion, only one way to cure the "itch"......is some old cardboard

again Leon, congrats on the auction!

and again, thanks to the great collectors we have here irrelevant to what you collect, we are almost like a big family!

[sago]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Please allow a contrasting view. Not all of us here are interested in collecting T206; in fact, I and some others find it for the most part immensely boring. Accordingly, I often ignore threads on the subject rather than complain about it–that is the expected protocol, right? Now imagine my delight when there’s a thread started on a type collection–a magnificent one with (in my view) endless subjects of discussion-and from a board member no less. A collection after my own heart, with a little something for everybody that may bring out very informative posts about more obscure issues. I open that thread to see repeated ramblings that I found nearly incoherent about, guess what–T206! Better still, Frankenstein and scrap T206, where machine shop errors are elevated to cult and coveted status. More and more were my eyes treated to these posts. Now I’m sorry, but IF EVER there was a thread in which such subject could take a back seat to the topic at hand and go its own way for those who care, this was it. But no, on and on it went, with the same poster often just posting one after another.

Then, instead of getting back on track, there was a somewhat prolonged period of testimonials for this poster and his apparent unmatched “passion” and exuberance for his niche, as though the rest of us can’t get that and as if that was the point. Another day or so of few meaty posts in favor of more opportunities to hear from the T206 collectors. Thankfully, there since have been a good number of posts about pick-ups from this exquisite grouping.

I admit to having never even taken much less scored highly in an etiquette class, and by no means did I diffuse the situation here. Perhaps I am incendiary, although I am not miserable. This board and the hobby have changed over the past few years, neither to my liking. I blame no one, or maybe I blame everyone. There are options available to me, and they should be considered. For purposes of this post and thread, though, I just want to congratulate Leon and all who were fortunate enough to have won something, and hope to hear more about those winnings.

Block all of his posts if he annoys you that much.

[BobC]

Tom,

Yes, I saw that also there were multiple bidders above the final price that Leon's W511 cards achieved. That is what didn't make sense and why I brought it up. I was wondering if there was some credence to the point one person made about the auction getting better results if a different AH were used. It certainly isn't a PSA versus SGC issue as I wouldn't call the W511 cards a normal set that someone would try to establish as the top set on the PSA registry. And besides, PSA only gave it an Authentic grade whereas SGC gave both of Leon's cards a numerical grade.

I'm guessing the Ebay bidders were possibly not bidding in the Heritage auction, or even aware of it. I am sure there are a lot of people that bid on Ebay that don't use auction houses because they either don't know, or don't care, about the AHs, or may even figure that they would pay more through an AH what with the buyer's premium and such that usually gets tacked on to the hammer price. In this case, it turned out to be just the opposite, and only three days after Leon's auction ended!

I was thinking that with the National and some other really great auctions all just ending within a couple weeks of Leon's auction, is it possible there was too much saturation of great, high priced items out there in such a short period of time that potential buyer's held back on items such as these W511 cards? Huggins & Scott's auction ended a week earlier than Leon's, then there was also the LOTG auction that ended prior to last Thursday, and don't forget the big auctions that were taking place and closed during the National. And then there is the National itself where people save up to attend and often make large purchases.

Don't get me wrong, this was a great auction and I think Leon did very well but, I'm also beginning to think he may have left some money on the table due to the timing of when it occurred. I'm guessing the original thought was that having it right after the National would allow for people to see the items and build more interest, and therefore, more bidding. I also noticed that some people posting in this thread mentioned they were a little surprised at how quickly everything closed, despite the 30 minute, lot by lot, carryover bidding. It seemed that some people felt there would be many items remaining open for bidding a lot longer than they were. I'm wondering if there was just too much, too soon, and it ended up effecting Leon's prices realized since his seems to be the last big auction/sale in such a short time frame?

Anyway, just my opinion and something I thought others may like to weigh in on. And besides the two W511 Ruth cards, were there any other lots anyone felt were way underbid?

Bob C

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Please allow a contrasting view. Not all of us here are interested in collecting T206; in fact, I and some others find it for the most part immensely boring. Accordingly, I often ignore threads on the subject rather than complain about it–that is the expected protocol, right? Now imagine my delight when there’s a thread started on a type collection–a magnificent one with (in my view) endless subjects of discussion-and from a board member no less. A collection after my own heart, with a little something for everybody that may bring out very informative posts about more obscure issues. I open that thread to see repeated ramblings that I found nearly incoherent about, guess what–T206! Better still, Frankenstein and scrap T206, where machine shop errors are elevated to cult and coveted status. More and more were my eyes treated to these posts. Now I’m sorry, but IF EVER there was a thread in which such subject could take a back seat to the topic at hand and go its own way for those who care, this was it. But no, on and on it went, with the same poster often just posting one after another.

Then, instead of getting back on track, there was a somewhat prolonged period of testimonials for this poster and his apparent unmatched “passion” and exuberance for his niche, as though the rest of us can’t get that and as if that was the point. Another day or so of few meaty posts in favor of more opportunities to hear from the T206 collectors. Thankfully, there since have been a good number of posts about pick-ups from this exquisite grouping.

I admit to having never even taken much less scored highly in an etiquette class, and by no means did I diffuse the situation here. Perhaps I am incendiary, although I am not miserable. This board and the hobby have changed over the past few years, neither to my liking. I blame no one, or maybe I blame everyone. There are options available to me, and they should be considered. For purposes of this post and thread, though, I just want to congratulate Leon and all who were fortunate enough to have won something, and hope to hear more about those winnings.

100% agree.

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Please allow a contrasting view. Not all of us here are interested in collecting T206; in fact, I and some others find it for the most part immensely boring. Accordingly, I often ignore threads on the subject rather than complain about it–that is the expected protocol, right? Now imagine my delight when there’s a thread started on a type collection–a magnificent one with (in my view) endless subjects of discussion-and from a board member no less. A collection after my own heart, with a little something for everybody that may bring out very informative posts about more obscure issues. I open that thread to see repeated ramblings that I found nearly incoherent about, guess what–T206! Better still, Frankenstein and scrap T206, where machine shop errors are elevated to cult and coveted status. More and more were my eyes treated to these posts. Now I’m sorry, but IF EVER there was a thread in which such subject could take a back seat to the topic at hand and go its own way for those who care, this was it. But no, on and on it went, with the same poster often just posting one after another.

Then, instead of getting back on track, there was a somewhat prolonged period of testimonials for this poster and his apparent unmatched “passion” and exuberance for his niche, as though the rest of us can’t get that and as if that was the point. Another day or so of few meaty posts in favor of more opportunities to hear from the T206 collectors. Thankfully, there since have been a good number of posts about pick-ups from this exquisite grouping.

I admit to having never even taken much less scored highly in an etiquette class, and by no means did I diffuse the situation here. Perhaps I am incendiary, although I am not miserable. This board and the hobby have changed over the past few years, neither to my liking. I blame no one, or maybe I blame everyone. There are options available to me, and they should be considered. For purposes of this post and thread, though, I just want to congratulate Leon and all who were fortunate enough to have won something, and hope to hear more about those winnings.

Agreed. Well said.

[ValKehl]

I won 2 of the 3 cards that I wanted most from Leon's collection:
(1) the E222 A.W. H. Caramel card of Otey for my collection of cards of Virginia League players.
http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-ca...links-12202013
(2) the T216 Virginia Extra of Jennings, which I wanted to go with my T216 Kotton and T216 Mino cards of Jennings with the same pose.
http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-ca...pleItem-071515

The third card is the T205 Hindu of WaJo, but my limit was $5Kish, and it went for a bit over $7K. I also won a Western Playground card for my type collection and a couple of other cards.

Because Heritage closes its auction lots individually, I spent only 65% of the $$ that I was fully intending to spend (sorry about this, Leon!). Once the T205 Hindu-WaJo reached the price level where I decided not to pursue it further, several lots that I would have reallocated my $$ to had already closed. When the day comes that I decide to part with my collection, I will absolutely NOT give it to an auction house that closes lots individually, for I am convinced this method does not serve the best interests of consignors.

Val

[atx840]

Nice cards everyone.