Cutting sheets

[MacDice]

Why would you want to cut it from a sheet? Isn't an uncut sheet harder to find than a single card?

[ksabet]

Originally Posted by MacDice

Why would you want to cut it from a sheet? Isn't an uncut sheet harder to find than a single card?

Harder to find maybe but not nearly as valuable as high grade singles

[drcy]

The rule is you disclose information and let the buyers decide. One collector may not care, one may care, one may it think the date of the cut doesn't matter, one may think it does matter-- and personal sentiments are a perfectly valid reason for determining a buy price. There are a lot of personal taste, personal aesthetics reasons for a valuation.

P.s., if there's nothing wrong with it and it shouldn't effect value, then there should be no problem in disclosing it. The reason people don't disclose things is because they believe the disclosure will lower sales price.

Disclose, disclose, disclose. It's not up to the seller to decide which value-effecting material information the buyer should receive, in particular as it relates to how an item has been physically altered decades after it was made. The seller doesn't get to "rationalize away" all the information the seller "doesn't need," especially when (by pure unforseen coincidence, of course) that disclosure would lower the sell price.

And if you think there's nothing wrong with a 1933 card sheet cut in 2015, great. If you want to specialized in modern cut cards because you consider them just as valid, go for it. That's a perfectly valid personal collecting sentiment. And if you think a 2015 reprint is just as pretty and is just as valid to you as a 1933 original, that's perfectly fine personal judgment-- but that doesn't excuse you from disclosing that a card you're selling is a reprint.

In short, if you think modern sheet cut vintage cards should be worth the same as vintage cut cards, that's fine. If you think modern sheet cut vintage cards should be worth the same as vintage cut cards so you don't have disclose to potential buyers that a card was modern cut, that's not fine.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by drcy

Disclose, disclose, disclose.

How close were ya again? Dat close?

(sorry, Friday after a looooong week)

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by drcy

The rule is you disclose information and let the buyers decide. One collector may not care, one may care-- and personal sentiments are a perfectly valid reason for determining a buy price. There are a lot of personal taste, personal aesthetics reasons for a valuation.

P.s., if there's nothing wrong with it and it shouldn't effect value, then there should be no problem in disclosing it. The reason people don't disclose things is because they believe the disclosure will lower sales price.

Disclose, disclose, disclose. It's not up to the seller to decide which value-effecting material information the buyer should receive, in particular as it relates to how an item has been physically altered decades after it was made.

And if you think there's nothing wrong with a 1933 card sheet cut in 2015, great. If you want to specialized in modern cut cards because you consider them just as valid, go for it. That's a perfectly valid personal collecting sentiment. And if you think a 2015 reprint is just as pretty and is just as valid to you as a 1933 original, that's perfectly fine personal judgment-- but that doesn't excuse you from disclosing that a card you're selling is a reprint.

Once a card is in a holder, there is no such thing as disclosure.

[ksabet]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Once a card is in a holder, there is no such thing as disclosure.

Its unfortunate but you are correct

[Peter_Spaeth]

I should qualify my statement slightly. I have seen REA descriptions where Rob has opined that despite being graded, a card is trimmed. That may have been confined to the Harris Collection, I don't recall now. But in any event, I don't think I have seen anyone else offer an independent opinion (unless it be that the card is undergraded). EDITED TO ADD I also remember that Rob identified some numerically graded Ramlys as sheet cut.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by MacDice

Why would you want to cut it from a sheet? Isn't an uncut sheet harder to find than a single card?

A sheet is harder to find, but some collectors that cut sheets hope to get 132 perfect cards for centering & corners or however many cards are on that particular sheet. The sum of the prices for "perfect" cards, if graded would probably be substantially more than the sheet cost.

Z