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Old 07-19-2015, 08:21 PM
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I'm going off on a highjack of this thread, but one thing I've noticed more and more of at show tables is dealers who have hot young women working the table with them. Most of the time they know nothing about baseball cards and are clearly there for window dressing.

This really bugs me when I ask them a question about a card or a price and they have to go ask the actual dealer himself.

Mind you, I don't mind having women at card shows, but if they are working your table they should have some knowledge of the hobby.
LOL - you like discussing torque specs with the girls at car shows too?

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Old 07-20-2015, 10:15 AM
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Unless its a girl working upfront who midreads the price tag on a T206 Wagner and sells it for 100.00 instead of the 100k price tag that was on it. Think this happend in the 80s, and it stood up in court when the business owner tried to sue the customer who bought it.
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Old 07-20-2015, 01:36 PM
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Unless its a girl working upfront who midreads the price tag on a T206 Wagner and sells it for 100.00 instead of the 100k price tag that was on it. Think this happend in the 80s, and it stood up in court when the business owner tried to sue the customer who bought it.
Sort of close.

It was a 68 Ryan rookie for $18 instead of 1800, and part of the dealer losing was that it was a kid that bought it.

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Sort of close.

It was a 68 Ryan rookie for $18 instead of 1800, and part of the dealer losing was that it was a kid that bought it.

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I had never heard this story, so had to look it up. Here's an original article from it (assuming this is the one being discussed).
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and this article has more detail about what happened with quotes, etc. Seems the woman at the front was a fill-in who worked at the guy's jewelry store.
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Old 07-20-2015, 01:54 PM
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It was actually a $1200 Ryan RC which sold for $12

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...y-rookie-cards

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Old 07-21-2015, 09:59 AM
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It was actually a $1200 Ryan RC which sold for $12

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...y-rookie-cards

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In case anyone unfamiliar with that case is curious as to how it turned out:

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...men-wrzesinski
Baseball Card In Dispute Will Be Put Up For Sale
April 23, 1991
WHEATON, ILL. — A baseball card that has been the focus of a court battle between a schoolboy and a dealer will be sold
and the proceeds will go to charity, the two sides said Monday. Brian Wrzesinski, 13, of Addison, and baseball card store
owner Joe Irmen announced their out-of-court settlement Monday minutes before a judge was to rule. Wrzesinski bought
the Nolan Ryan rookie card last year for $12. Irmen sued, saying the card marked ''1200'' was worth $1,200.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1...00.html?pg=all
RYAN ROOKIE CARD SELLS FOR $5,000
Saturday, June 22 1991 12:00 a.m. MDT
Bidding for a controversial Nolan Ryan rookie baseball card started at $12 Friday, and within minutes the card sold for $5,000.

The auction was held following a settlement between 13-year-old Bryan Wrzesinski, Addison, Ill., and baseball card store
owner Joe Irmen. On April 24, 1990, Bryan bought the card for $12 when a clerk in Irmen's store did not realize the price tag
actually meant $1,200. During Friday's sale at Chicago Riverfront Antique Mart and Auction Co., Bryan Wrzesinski symbolically
began the bidding at $12, but the next bid was $1,200, by Joe Irmen, the other figure in the controversy.

The bidding rose steadily until the card was purchased for $5,000 by Tony Del Angel, 39, of Lisle, Ill. "I look at it
as an investment. Within a few years, I'm going to get my money back," Del Angel said.


Fascinating discussion of the legalistic implications of the case here:
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It'd be a hoot to argue this over beers with the contract lawyers on board...
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The bidding rose steadily until the card was purchased for $5,000 by Tony Del Angel, 39, of Lisle, Ill. "I look at it
as an investment. Within a few years, I'm going to get my money back," Del Angel said.
We can see in retrospect that 1991 was the peak of the late '80s-early '90s card bubble, and this quote is a great illustration why. Unless that Ryan RC was in PSA 9 or 10 condition (which I highly doubt, given how much it was handled back then), it never got near $5000 in market value.
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It was actually a $1200 Ryan RC which sold for $12

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...y-rookie-cards

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Too funny. This was my childhood card shop. I haven't thought about that story in a long time. It consumed my best friend and my (11 at the time) thoughts entirely for quite a while. We weren't too fond of Joe, but that shop did provide plenty of great memories. Ball-mart recently closed it's doors.
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Frank, thank you for bringing that up! That "is" has been bothering me ever since I first saw this thread.

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So this one time at a party ..........we were watching the F1 race and a driver crashed because he hit a pocket of bad air causing loss of down force. my friend asked what bad air was and the hot chick across the room explained it. Somehow I found that incredibly attractive. Hot, yes. Knows race car aerodynamics yes. could I get her number? Even from the guy hosting the party ..........no.

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