Is there people you wont buy from simply because of their attitude?

[packs]

Totally. There are even people I wouldn't sell to because I don't like them.

[7nohitter]

Yes. Mainly for one of the reasons you mentioned above. When I was in my early teens (had a job at 14, so I had $$) some dealers would either act bothered that I dared to ask them about the condition of a card, or they would simply ignore me.

Fast forward to the world of the internet and there are so many places to buy a card that I will not spend my time or money on some jerk. Luckily, I've only had incredible transactions here on the BST, including two where I recieved the item before the check had even cleared!

[7nohitter]

Originally Posted by packs

Totally. There are even people I wouldn't sell to because I don't like them.

This is interesting. I'm trying to think if I would refuse money because I didn't care for someone...probably yes. Can you elaborate on this...only because it's interesting.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by 7nohitter

This is interesting. I'm trying to think if I would refuse money because I didn't care for someone...probably yes. Can you elaborate on this...only because it's interesting.

LOL you make an interesting point Andrew. It is very noble for not accepting money out of the principal of disliking someone though.

[brian1961]

Yes.

We collectors are frequently a very quiet, sensitive, and immensely passionate bunch of people. We take our collecting very seriously, even if we try to be low-key about the whole thing. I am speaking of collectors in general, because I believe we all share the same passions, and sensitivity to certain attitudes found among assholes in whatever hobby interests us.

Maya Angelou was so right-on when she wrote of all the things we'll remember about a person, how they made us feel will be the main thing we'll always remember, and it will affect everything about how we feel towards that individual.

For better or for worse, how you got a treasured card or complete set--the circumstances, the price, and the whole experience from whom you got that meaningful piece from, will, as the years go by, come back to your mind. It won't just be the card or set. You wish you could separate the card from the jerk, but sometimes you cannot take "the jerk" out of the card, and have to just sell the thing and get another one, to get the asshole's stench removed from the association with the given item. Odious comment, but it's been true for me.

Forgive me for not getting too specific or naming names, much as I might feel the urge to now and then. There's two sides though, remember?

Dealers probably have their own lists of reprehensible buyers whom they feel a genuine headache coming upon them every time they see one those scumbags approach their table. Yep, it can go both ways. No, I've never been a dealer. Took out some ads in SCD back in the day with numerous frantic phone calls. I tried to treat everyone with dignity and respect, and let down the guys who called "too late" as tenderly as I could, 'cause I had been there numerous times before myself. I'm pleased to say that of well over 100 sales, a decent amount were repeat customers; I only had one returned item.

Good topic to cogitate about, but sometimes there's things you really don't want to remember.....

Cheers.

---Brian Powell

[3-2-count]

Yes

[Brian Van Horn]

I don't choose not to buy based on attitude. I have had some guys who have seemed gruff at first and later I saw them or heard from them in some fashion (i.e. e-mail) and they were much more pleasant. The ones I do not buy from did something specifically that I thought was unethical.

[thecatspajamas]

No, but there are a few who I avoid due to their poor grammar

[yankeeno7]

Yes, there are those who I will not do business with.

[ValKehl]

Yes - at the top of the list, way above the others, is Mr. Mint.
Val Kehl

[boneheadandrube]

I won't do business with people based on looks. If someone has a card I want but appears unkempt or dressed for a backyard BBQ, is out of shape, or looks like a bad yearbook photo from the 70's or 80's I move on.

My monster # is 4.

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Yes - at the top of the list, way above the others, is Mr. Mint.
Val Kehl

+1

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Yes - at the top of the list, way above the others, is Mr. Mint.
Val Kehl

Oh, Val, you have put me in a very awkward position. Although I have never had a deal in place with Mr. Mint, the couple of occasions I dealt with him in discussing a possible deal he was very professional and polite. I think he also knew I wasn't going to put up with much crap.

[Den*nis O*Brien]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

No, but there are a few who I avoid due to their poor grammar

Yes, there is an AH nearby that I gave up on due to a very rude and nasty attitude by one subordinate. The boss is a great guy but if he hasn't figured her out yet....I will direct my modest funds elsewhere, like Sterling, where nobody yells at you but rather converses pleasantly. I have not even looked at The offending Ah's offerings since the bad phone call. And will continue to focus elsewhere.

[ls7plus]

Just two that I can think of. One was deeply involved in putting off-grade cards through a paper press and trimming them back down to size, eliminating slightly worn corners in the process, and making the altered raw cards appear to be NrMt-Mt or better. They would consequently measure correctly, but the edges revealed a much cleaner cut than original cards ever possessed. Most of this BS was eliminated when TPG began to loom very, very large on the scene in the early to mid-nineties, but the same seller now "appears" to be selling legitimate PSA-graded cards. I don't think a leopard changes his spots, however. I wouldn't put it past this dealer to be opening slabs and inserting altered cards in place of the originals, or buying from the Mexican scammer who was a prime topic of discussion with regard to his counterfeiting PSA holders and slips several months ago on this forum.

I don't even know if the other (local) dealer is still in business. His specialty was pricing Ex+ to ExMt cards at NrMt-Mt prices, then getting angry when you made an offer more akin to the real value of the card in its actual grade. This kind of jerk tends to put himself out of business as collectors become more knowledgeable, though sometimes that knowledge is expensive.

May your knowledge increase substantially before those lacking in morals or integrity get a chance to get their hands on your money!

Larry

[dabigyankeeman]

At card shows, unless I am unbelieveably interested in a particular item, I usually pass right by tables with cards that are NOT priced.

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by dabigyankeeman

At card shows, unless I am unbelieveably interested in a particular item, I usually pass right by tables with cards that are NOT priced.

+1

[danski496]

Originally Posted by dabigyankeeman

At card shows, unless I am unbelieveably interested in a particular item, I usually pass right by tables with cards that are NOT priced.

+1 I stay far away. Some, not all, of them will test you to see if you know how much the card is worth and then state a price. *

[h2oya311]

+1

I had ignored this thread until now but I simply had to see if the grammar nazis were doing their job. I cringe every time I log into this site and see this horrible thread title.

Please fix it!!! It's such an eye-sore!!

[conor912]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

+1

I had ignored this thread until now but I simply had to see if the grammar nazis were doing their job. I cringe every time I log into this site and see this horrible thread title.

Please fix it!!! Anyone that lands on the front page will think we are ALL idiots!

+1 Hallelujah

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

Totally. There are even people I wouldn't sell to because I don't like them.

I won't sell to anyone who tells me to ship the card to Dick Towle. Seriously, it's happened.

[pokerplyr80]

I agree this could definitely work both ways. I wouldn't buy from someone who had a bad attitude or didn't respond to a question before the sale. If they're rude before they have your money how are they going to respond to a problem.

Same with a rude customer. I work in car sales and have seen deals passed on because the guy was a jerk. Some customers are not worth having in any industry.

[joeadcock]

affirmative

[almostdone]

Yes. Both buying and selling and both here on the boards. I buy much more than sell but the two things that prevent me from working on a deal with certain members are poor communication skills and the way they treat others in general topics and discussions.
If I see someone who is a know it all and condescending towards others in most comments they make I don't even look at their threads in the BST.
Same with people who are selling, trading or buying then you open up discussion then once an agreement is made they drop the conversation. I'm still "waiting" on a payment for an item someon promised to purchase in March. When I see the same thread pop up saying "looking to buy..." I move along and hope others do the same.
Overall I've had great deals with many members and likewise I have my favorites I enjoy buying from. Goes both ways.
Drew

[Jantz]

Sean

Good thread topic!

After being a pre war card collector for almost ten years now, there are a few people that I refuse to buy from.


Jantz

[steve B]

I've been collecting on and off for around .....

lets just say a long time. Not as long as some, but a long time.

There aren't really many people I've run across that I've put on the "never buy from" or "won't sell to" list. Of course there's a bunch I just don't bother with, but not actively. More like the guys at shows who don't have what I'm interested in or whose prices seem to be "excessively imaginative"

Most of the big problem dealers are in the category of people who sell stuff I can't afford so by default I won't deal with them.

I can't say I'm a great seller or buyer. I can drop communication for a day or two if I'm busy of thinking about something, or simply haven't dug it out from under the stuff on top of the box it's in. (Lots better with active sales - I keep that stuff easily accessible so I can ship it easily)
But then, I don't get cranky if I'm debating a purchase and someone else comes along with a solid offer. That's the risk of thinking about stuff.

The very short list?
A card shop in CT where I got dropped off and after 5 minutes the guy gets a call and says I'll have to leave since he needs to go sell his house! What, you couldn't have mentioned it when my ride who is now gone for 2 hours was still here? Gee thanks.

Mr Mint. I called about his ad for the tango egg cards and never got a call back. Not even from staff to say they were sold out or that the prices were a typo - they might have been.

A current Ebay seller with very washed out scans and a trimmed card that didn't respond until I filed a case. Then it was "oh I was away" so I couldn't respond and eventually a request to remove the negative I gave. All without ever addressing the trimming........

And not cards, but one stamp dealer.......Picked out some stuff, and the first thing in the stack he says "ok that's $75 " " umm, but it's clearly marked $10" "that's from when I bought it" "ever hear of an eraser?" Do you want it or not" "No" How about the other stuff?" "are those the price you paid too?" "probably" "Then nevemind and thanks for wasting my time"
I think he might have died, he was pretty old and I haven't seen him setup anywhere in a few years. But I always passed by his booth without looking.


The close runner up is an antique shop in CT. They had a bunch of nice sewing stuff my wife wanted at great prices. When we went to buy it she said "Oh no, you can't buy all of them you have to leave some for other people" followed by a lengthy gripe about how ebay meant she couldn't buy stuff cheaply anymore. When they worked out what my wife would be allowed to buy - easily the strangest negotiation I'd ever seen. We got to my stuff. And I said "well, I'd have bought about $100 in stuff, but I suppose I need to leave some for other people". And went through the stack and put back about $75 of the stuff. Then she took back some tools which were apparently the handymans he'd left in a pie plate in the window with price tags on them.......Never seen such a messed up place. But the stuff I did get was REALLY cheap, so.....maybe.

Steve B

[milkit1]

Originally Posted by almostdone

Yes. Both buying and selling and both here on the boards. I buy much more than sell but the two things that prevent me from working on a deal with certain members are poor communication skills and the way they treat others in general topics and discussions.
If I see someone who is a know it all and condescending towards others in most comments they make I don't even look at their threads in the BST.
Same with people who are selling, trading or buying then you open up discussion then once an agreement is made they drop the conversation. I'm still "waiting" on a payment for an item someon promised to purchase in March. When I see the same thread pop up saying "looking to buy..." I move along and hope others do the same.
Overall I've had great deals with many members and likewise I have my favorites I enjoy buying from. Goes both ways.
Drew

yeah this is pretty much the way I am. I've been doing this 33 years and my list of "no deals" is surprisingly short considering. With the National coming up I expect to see a few. Thankfully I remember them and walk past but on occasion I still get the dealer that is soooo put out because I ask to see a card that turns out has a price tag on the BACK that is way overpriced.

[brob28]

Yes, there are those I will not buy from or sell to.