Altered high grade E93s in Mile High?

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by RaidonCollects

I'm not too sure, I'm no expert, keen too see everyone else's thoughts.

^ You might have to put you're full name under the post.

Owen Randell

I'd rather not put my full name under my post.

[pokerplyr80]

I'm certainly not an expert, but other than looking too good to be true, what specifically makes you think these could be altered?

The bottom right corner of the Wagner does look a little off to me.

[calvindog]

[pencil1974]

I guess I'm not seeing it either. The pic of the Cobb 5 is not even close to the 9 they would have to rebuild that bottom right corner so I would say that one is out. The 6 seems close but it has a diagonal line going from the edge to Cobbs shoulder area plus looks to be a black print dot beside his hat that is not on the 9 either.

Now the Wagner looks really close on the front with what we call in the print industry as a "hickey". Seems to be in the same place on the card but that can happen as I've seen them pull sheets in a run that the hickey is in the same spot of the first 20 sheets and is either fixed or fills in on its own as the run keeps going. There are a few spots on the back of the Wagner that are not on the example of the 6 (could be that the image quality is too bad but you should see it).

So if I'm understanding the comparisons correctly they seem close but not exact. Just my opinion though.

[calvindog]

They're the same cards.

[111gecko]

Oh my.......

[glchen]

For what it's worth, the Wagner cert #50082111 and the Cobb cert #50082116 no longer exist in the PSA cert database, which usually means the card has been cracked out, and the cert returned to PSA. (The Cobb cert #20082114 still exists.)

[e107collector]

Originally Posted by calvindog

They're the same cards.

OMG!!!

The Wagner has a black printing dot by his right ear on both cards.

Tony

[scottglevy]

Wow Jeff,

The similarities in the Wagner cards are striking. There are other minor printing defects that match up perfectly on the two cards.

It's sad to say but this sort of thing sours me on the hobby so much

Best,
Scott

[Stonepony]

Originally Posted by calvindog

They're the same cards.

Jeff has made his opinion crystal clear. As to the (?) in the OP, I think that was his way of inviting conversation. I welcome such post before an auction ends rather than after.

[Econteachert205]

In the art world it is perfectly acceptable to remove old varnish and layers of dirt and nicotine using solvents. Holding baseball cards to a higher standard than masterpiece paintings seems a bit much.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by calvindog

I'd rather not put my full name under my post.

Same here - my first name is kind of weird