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Old 07-05-2015, 08:42 AM
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I am curious, what do you think of John Bogle's thesis (well, not his alone by any means, but one he popularized with Vanguard) that over time only a very very small percentage of funds and fund managers will outperform the S&P 500?
Well, that has been more or less true historically, depending on what time period you look at, and the general idea is pretty uncontroversial. Even so, all of the funds I cover are actively managed, and the active vs. passive discussion is a lively one in the field. Here is a summary of a panel on the topic at the recent Morningstar Investment Conference:

http://news.morningstar.com/articlen...aspx?id=701870

and a column by my colleague John Rekenthaler about a recent article by Charley Ellis, an indexing legend, in defense of active management:

http://news.morningstar.com/articlen...aspx?id=702065
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Well, that has been more or less true historically, depending on what time period you look at, and the general idea is pretty uncontroversial. Even so, all of the funds I cover are actively managed, and the active vs. passive discussion is a lively one in the field. Here is a summary of a panel on the topic at the recent Morningstar Investment Conference:

http://news.morningstar.com/articlen...aspx?id=701870

and a column by my colleague John Rekenthaler about a recent article by Charley Ellis, an indexing legend, in defense of active management:

http://news.morningstar.com/articlen...aspx?id=702065
Good reading, thank you. I particularly thought this was well put, in the Rekenthaler piece:

Active managers do set efficient security prices. They do help global markets to function smoothly. But there's no particular reason why you need to own them.
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Good reading, thank you. I particularly thought this was well put, in the Rekenthaler piece:

Active managers do set efficient security prices. They do help global markets to function smoothly. But there's no particular reason why you need to own them.
I'm not a professional, but I do study this topic and it appears in the data that on broad large-cap funds, it's very hard to beat the market in the long term, but with small-cap funds you do see many managers beating their index.
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I'm not a professional, but I do study this topic and it appears in the data that on broad large-cap funds, it's very hard to beat the market in the long term, but with small-cap funds you do see many managers beating their index.
As a financial advisor, our whole industry is so intensely regulated that those of us who strictly follow the rules can't say much about anything in a public forum - without getting it approved by 'compliance' first. However, I do have pretty strong opinions that I'm happy to share privately.

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